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330:. This is wrong. Clark is known for testifying before Congress and before the 911 Commission, and for the many interviews, profiles of him in the press and in documentaries. Clark found an escape route, and several hundred victims on the upper floors could have survived if they had been informed of this route. Our nominator is entitled to the 321: 172: 308:-- It has been half a dozen years since there was a serious suggestion that all survivors or all victims of disasters like 9-11 merit coverage here. Blanket coverage of all survivors and victims does not comply with 166: 106: 101: 312:. But a small slice of the victims and survivors of disasters like 9-11 either were already notable, or there is some aspect of the coverage of their stories that transcends memorial like coverage. 110: 316:
wrote his Master's thesis on Osama bin Laden. Pre-9-11 that was not notable. Post-9-11 Kohlmann parlayed this thesis to make himself the King of the third-party counter-terrorism commentators.
93: 133: 385:- Congressional testimony transforms this from a lucky One Event survivor to a public figure. Adequate sourcing showing to constitute notability in Knowledge (XXG) terms. 97: 265: 241: 187: 154: 89: 81: 291:- I think we need to base this one on the numerous reliabe sources that are available rather than strictly adherring to the rules of notability. -- 394: 377: 359: 300: 280: 256: 232: 210: 75: 148: 344:
here. Authoritative references have gone on record that Clark did play an important role. The opinion of authoritative references trump the
144: 219:- Did not have an important role? The numerous media accounts contradict that and provide more than enough information for an article. 194: 17: 368:: It's very well sourced and has substantial content, and is a very exceptional survivor account for having been above the impact. 160: 373: 409: 36: 408:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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was merely the sister of an airline pilot. Pre-9-11 she was not-notable. Post-9-11 she
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Bio for a guy known for just one event (where he did not have an important role).
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this is the second nomination for this article, the first can be found at
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