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physical existence--very few guidelines can claim as much practical consensus. The reason for not deleting articles on secondary schools is that most of them -- and this an example, can be shown to be notable with sufficient work. It's also part of a very important compromise. The other half of the compromise was not normally including articles on primary and intermediate schools. When I joined in 2006, we did not have this compromise, and the result was that dozens of articles on both appeared at AfD every day. The result depended on the relative energy of the two sides to the discussion. was possible to delete any non-famous school by saying the references were trivial; it was possible to keep almost any school by looking hard enough and saying the references were not trivial. As i showed at the time, the overall results was not better than random. This was a ridiculous misuse of the time of many good editors on both sides of the discussion. Since then, they've been out of the list of AfDs, and we are no worse off overall. I point out that a further reason for keeping these is that they are good articles for beginners, and in particular good projects for secondary school classes--we need to attract new people , especially at the age group, for they may stay with us for many years.
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notes, we have here an informal "grand compromise" regarding redirecting most articles about elementary schools (except those of historic or architectural significance) and keeping almost all articles about secondary schools, except cases of fraud and home schools. And it works. Trying to upset the
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Secondary school, and that is enough. (The article at present is actually fairly good, as they go.) Though worded merely as coon outcomes, this is actually one of the most stable guidelines we have--there have been no exceptions in at least the last 5 years, except for schools with a dubious
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automatically notable, but there is a strong working consensus that they are presumed to be notable. As I said in another venue, two hours spent in a library in Lagos would almost certainly lead to the discovery of many new sources for this article. But what we have now is sufficient. As
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explicitly says that one can compare this article to other articles in certain cases to say "this article did it, so this should too" - for example, if a similar article survived an AFD. If "commonoutcomes" wasn't an appropriate rationale for AFD there would be no point to its existence.
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The article has been expanded, but still fails to assert notability. "...the school had difficulty finding qualified German teachers, so the possibility that the school would have to cancel its German classes existed." is not encyclopedic content.
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Thank you so much for that! Even though it seems like some of these articles don't have significant coverage, at least two of them do and I've cited them in the article. BTW the Unicef article is talking about
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After getting some TLC, the article looks better. I still question the encyclopedic value of it, but it is now more than a 3 line article about a school that could not find a German teacher.
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due to the common outcome of keeping senior high schools/schools with senior high components. Also keep because even though the content of the book
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The WP:N guideline is very careful to say that the GNG is not applicable in all cases. Consensus is what makes a WP guideline, not formal status.
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Hmmm, informal grand compromises that contradict the actual written guidelines? If the apples are rotten, the cart should be upset.--
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I have NO Idea why a 3 line article which makes NO assertion of notability whatsoever is exempt from
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Perhaps in theory each article should be judged in its own merits, but precedent is a reality.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Womanismus als Methode der Interpretation deutscher literarischer Texte
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presumes notability for all senior high schools/sixth form schools
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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apple cart is not in the best interests of the encyclopedia.
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which is a different school in a different part of Lagos.
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and schools with senior high/sixth form components.
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