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physical existence--very few guidelines can claim as much practical consensus. The reason for not deleting articles on secondary schools is that most of them -- and this an example, can be shown to be notable with sufficient work. It's also part of a very important compromise. The other half of the compromise was not normally including articles on primary and intermediate schools. When I joined in 2006, we did not have this compromise, and the result was that dozens of articles on both appeared at AfD every day. The result depended on the relative energy of the two sides to the discussion. was possible to delete any non-famous school by saying the references were trivial; it was possible to keep almost any school by looking hard enough and saying the references were not trivial. As i showed at the time, the overall results was not better than random. This was a ridiculous misuse of the time of many good editors on both sides of the discussion. Since then, they've been out of the list of AfDs, and we are no worse off overall. I point out that a further reason for keeping these is that they are good articles for beginners, and in particular good projects for secondary school classes--we need to attract new people , especially at the age group, for they may stay with us for many years.
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Secondary school, and that is enough. (The article at present is actually fairly good, as they go.) Though worded merely as coon outcomes, this is actually one of the most stable guidelines we have--there have been no exceptions in at least the last 5 years, except for schools with a dubious
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