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420:. I've done my best to expand the article, but the only sources I've been able to find are lists of election results and the party's own website. The other Google hits appear to be discussions on forums where someone has asked a questions along the lines of "anyone heard of this lot?" I don't think that the bar for articles on political parties should be set too high - having one elected councillor will almost certainly generate enough references to ensure that the party can be considered notable (and I'd certainly consider that a good article could be written on the 424:, which has a number of councillors, although the current article doesn't really demonstrate this). Some other parties may be notable for unusual views, activity in trade unions or specific campaigns, or any number of other areas. But if nobody outside the party has troubled themselves to write even one line of prose on the party's views, it's not notable. Just possibly, there might be sufficient evidence in the local press which hasn't made it online, but based on what I've been able to find, it has to be a sad delete vote. 321:
mean that either every party or no party gets an article. "If article X then article Y." is a fallacious argument, for obvious reasons. The primary criterion is multiple published works documenting the subject in depth from reliable and independent sources. Some parties satisfy that criterion, and
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Contested prod. Local independent parliamentary candidate standing as a "party" - almost no votes, no assertion of notability, not even any references to prove it actually happened. Every UK election throws up many hundreds of such "parties" which have little to distinguish themselves from each other
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notable. And no, as pointed out, that discussion isn't a discussion of notability. Here, we are discussing whether this subject warrants an article. And the criterion for that is whether this party has been documented in depth in multiple non-trivial published works from reliable and independent
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On the above discussion, I agree that the party should be on the _list_. I don't believe that it deserves its own _article_, especially not such a minimalistic one as we have at the moment. And this would apply to most of the parties at the bottom of the list, although a mass nomination probably
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One of WP's concept of notability must be about how long the list should be or the list would have been shortened no? You assert that the party is both 'tiny' and 'little', how little does the party have to be before it fails the notability test? To be consistent we could shorten the list to only
207:. No assertion of notability? The table for the 2005 election results states, 'This table indicates those parties with over 500 votes nationwide', there are 60 parties in the table not hundreds. British Public Party got over 500 votes. Please see discussion regarding notability 235:. The (very limited) discussion about notability you refer to is simply about some people's ideas of how long a list should be, not about WP's concepts of notability. Tiny little "parties" are almost certain to fail the notability test so let's at least see some substantial 294:
As I say above, the alternative would be to shorten the table to just those parties that have 1000 votes or more. We should also fairly apply the notability rational to all the other parties in the table and delete all those that don't have sources e.g.
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People sometimes wikify list entries with wild abandon. That doesn't mean that every entry on the list is a subject that qualifies for an article. (This is most commonly a problem with lists of people and characters.)
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Bear in mind that Boaks regularly changed the order of the words in the title of his candidatures, and never claimed to have a party, so the situation is somewhat different.
548:, no evidence of notability. I don't have a problem with including its name on a list of political parties, but there's nothing here that makes it deserve its own article. 469: 145:
per nom. The Public Safety Democratic Monarchist White Resident party doesn't even have a redirect, and this - individual, I assume - is far less notable than the noble
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of Knowledge (XXG) (which are published, by the way, and which are sources for articles such as the one that you point to), then that is all that it should garner
210:. I don't think there are sources for any of the constituency results for the 2005 elections but I don't think we should delete all of them! Please see article 390: 211: 88: 83: 92: 330:
to do with this discussion", moreover. How was it unclear? You also have the wrong idea of what speedy keeping is about. Your rationale is
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article although I was well aware of him, as any democrat should be. I'm grateful to you for the reference. :)
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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get articles. Some do not, and warrant no more than lines in election results tables, because that is
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Knowledge (XXG), and it doesn't warrant an article, merely a row in a table in an article such as
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That is not a valid rationale. It's not a rationale for speedy keeping, and AFD is not about
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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explains the criterion. Please read it. And the length of the list on the template has
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are your arguments for notability. Boldfaced words and an invalid rationale aren't.
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pretence to notability. If not, then it must have been a party that no-one came to!
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parties that received a 1000 votes or more but some other editors may disagree.
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Number of votes recieved is not the criterion. That is, in fact, irrelevant.
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notability. That's only what prevents certain classes of article from being
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Bloody hell, that's the last time I work on the red link project :-( ,
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etc but this would seem overkill which is why I vote for speedy keep.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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and very few voters who take any notice of them. Err... that's
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to do with this discussion, which is about an article.
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
Fram
talk
14:45, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
British Public Party
British Public Party
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
View log
WP:NN
andy
talk
21:08, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Commander
Tevildo
talk
21:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Bill Boaks
andy
talk
21:55, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Warofdreams

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