713:. I too think that it doesn't need most of the links. That is an argument for editing the page and not deleting it. That someone chooses to add too much information does not hurt the mission of Knowledge (XXG). What hurts is deleting articles that people have put effort into without helping to tailor the articles into something that would be worthwhile keeping. What hurts is having discussions about deletion instead of putting efforts into constructive improvements. A comment about the over-abundance of links on the talk page would have been much more constructive. I have not had much time at Knowledge (XXG) in the last few days, and much of it has been distracted by this AFD. --
612:- This is a very new article (the oldest content is from 9 days ago) and its nomination seems premature and raises the question of whether there should be a minimum age requirement before an article can be nominated for deletion. It does have an extensive collection of links but they do seem "content-relevant" to the unique subject matter as opposed to just for "mere" collection's sake, the later of which seems to be the main concern of the
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Knowledge (XXG) to advertise web content must not be tolerated; for that message, AfD speaks louder than a talk page. I am sorry if individual people find this AfD distracting, but I think it is necessary to the furure of this article, even if it is kept without consensus, which seems to be the case. I'll do the honors of removing the spam, since no one else seems willing.
600:. Some have speculated that Brokeback Mountain lost the Best Picture Oscar because of the parodies of the movie. So, I think that makes this a notable topic. You can't get much more notable than being one of the biggest "Best Picture" upsets in Academy Awards history; and this topic of parodies has, the opinions of some, been linked to the upset. I say keep, but cleanup or possibily merge. --
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article, and it was decided to move the information to a new page. Many people have contributed to the article, and by
Melchoir's assesment, this is a "waste of effort" and "irredeemable". But why? Who is being hurt? What is the damage? I was unaware of these parodies before I came accross them
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I fix up far more bad articles than I nominate for deletion. In this case, I didn't think it would be worth my effort; you are welcome to disagree, but actions speak louder than words. Discussions about deletion do not hurt the encyclopedia; they help by clarifying the application of policy for new
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Internet directories. There is nothing wrong with adding a list of content-relevant links to an article." The key word is "mere". There is already content beyond the collection of links. There could be more discussion about the phenomena, and over time that will
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Brokeback parodies are not just an Internet fad. The film was extensively parodied across other mediums including television and print and is arguably the most parodied movie of the year. They deserve their reference amongst the
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its silly but still something that has a place here. It only need time to evolve since it is still a current event. It has even garnered media attention
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Ugh again! Its a well known phenom and here are a few sources I found after one, yes one minuet of searching google news let alone anything else!
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