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1058:: This should be kept. Religions like Islam have pages with whole plethora of incidents where it is documented how Islam was used as a justification for terrorist acts (or even in some cases just people who happened to be Muslim committing such acts) All religions have their violent people and their fundamentalists. I think it would definitely be censorship if Buddhists committing such acts was not allowed to be well-documented on Knowledge. Yes, let`s not editorialize the matter let`s just all work together to report. 53:
correctly point out that such sources are not cited in the article. This may change if such sources are provided; with all the attention given to terrorism in recent years, it would surprise me if there are no books by reputable academics that cover the subject. In the interim, a home for the content may well be found in some other Buddhism-related article, as some suggest, if there is editorial consensus for that.
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proves no link between buddisum and violence that has been accused here. It should be noted at the actions of individual people can not be considered as the actions of the religion. None of the refs given here suggests that these people carried out these acts in the name of their religion. Hence what
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Of course, if I may add. If you are a Buddhist practitioner yourself, most likely you would not admit to the existence of Buddhist Terrorists. Similarity, as if you are a Christian, I doubt you'd admit the existence of Christian Terrorists. The same argument can be made if you are a Jew. I think your
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Oh please, personal point of view? Original research? Rather than saying that I'd hope you can point out what exactly constitutes as such in the said article. It's funny how many people in the West (even people in the New Atheism movement such as Sam Harris) goes out of their ways to bash the Abraham
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territory, which is a core policy. The basic problem is that you can't just list a number of incidents where Buddhists have been labeled as terrorists; you need reliable secondary published sources that discuss the phenomenon of "Buddhist terrorism" as a whole in some depth, and the "delete" opinions
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No substantial links have been established based on any reliable sources to the existence of Buddhist terrorism, nor has it be shown any organization or group carrying out acts of terrorism in the name of Buddhism, as it has been the case with other forms of Religious terrorism or violence. The four
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Right, so if that's the case, then we should all work together to find sources for this article. Simply deleting it may only satisfy (my personal belief here) your willingness to censor this article due to your Buddhist beliefs. I'll admit I haven't really worked on this article for a few weeks now,
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Funny how you guys who vehemently try to delete this article tend to be mostly Buddhists (my personal observation). BTW I just had to add the FACT tags in your comments above, Shehanw, they sound like pretty solid claim, do you care to cite them? Nevertheless that is to be expected: nobody likes to
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This is a subject derived as a conclusion from several isolated incidents listed to support a personal point of view. Most of these case seems to have other factors contributing, such as political, racial, geographical, etc hence no reliable sources are given to provide a conclusive link between
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is not a valid excuse anymore. If that is the case, anyone would be able to create articles of their own hypothetical theories and keep them until suitable references are found. Don't confuse this for censorship. And yes, all religions have their violent people. But you have to depict how these
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in the world. And also there are no Buddhist terrorist groups in the world. There should be a thing called Buddhist terrorism in the world to create such an article. Acts of some individual Buddhists or Buddhist monks can not be called terrorism. Buddhists never used violence to promote their
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This is not an issue with practicing Buddhism. To admit the existence of Buddhsit terrorism, there should be a thing called Buddhsit terrorism in the world. Can you name some Buddhist terrorists or terrorist organizations? Are there any terrorist groups such as Al-Qaeda or Taliban, which are
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we simply need to go dig up more sources to support such arguments. Rather than deletion, I recommend we all come together and help this page grow. If this page is deleted, then how are we ever going to be able to find sources in support of it? Deletion sounds a lot like censorship at this
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3. The Chinese government has also accused the Dalai Lama (and the Tibetan Gov't in Exile) of systematically causing the riots that happened in 2008. Whether this is true or not the allegation exist, and the Dalai Lama's rebuke also exist. So this alone is also a significant
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An article of this sensitivity requires citation for anything claimed. This is an encyclopedic article, as such all data in it must have proper references to stand up to out side scrutiny when verification is need. Else there is no difference between a blog and Knowledge.
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article does not mean that all other religions should have a similar article. There should be a proper reason for this article to exist. For example, incidents related to Sri Lanka have remained in the article without being properly referenced for 2 weeks.
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but isn't the whole point of Knowledge's NPOV that everyone (regardless of your religious and/or political backgrounds) should work together to fix the issues with the articles here? I hope you'll help me (and the Knowledge community at large) to do this.
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It's debatable, but we should only use that source to verify itself. That is, G.G Ponnambalam is a reliable source for statements such as "G.G Ponnambalam calls this Buddhist terrorism". To discuss this further, please do so on the article talk page.
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religions, but often gives undeserved credit to Eastern religions such as Buddhism. Every single religion has its fundamentalist and extremist elements. IT IS A FACT that there have been bloodshed where those involved were Buddhists,
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There have been some events that are accurately described as "Buddhist terrorism", but I doubt that it amounts to an encyclopedia article. What I think would be best is integrating this content into a much broader article called
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See my comments to shehanw above - if there are no instances of Buddhists committing terrorists acts that YOU know of, it doesn't mean they don't exist. If they truly do not exist, then this article won't survive, even if per
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connected with Buddhism??? Because there is no Buddhist terrorism in the world, there shouldn't be an article named 'Buddhist terrorism' in the Knowledge too. Otherwise,what is the difference between a blog and Knowledge?--
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based on Synth or OR are not valid, because the wider WP community has repeatedly considered this issue (lists of violent acts associated with a religion) in the context of other religions, and the result is alway
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these incident and the existence of Buddhist terrorism. The details of the incidents should be transfered to their own articles where other circumstance that effect them could be added with proper references.
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was removed ,because it was from a Pro LTTE web site, which is blocked in Sri Lanka. Those kind of biased unreliable references should not be used in these type of situations. Unfortunately
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objecting to temporal conditions of the Ugandan government? Yes, but it is also motivated by Christian beliefs. There are both secondary sources that ascribe the word to events, such as the
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I believe is that due to the lack of refs to suggest action were carried out in the name of Buddhism, these items should be moved to the articles on the conflicts them selves. Just because
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if the other articles on "religious terrorism" of various kinds are kept. Of course terrorism is un-Buddhist, but it is also un-Christian and un-Islamic. Is anyone starting an article on
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3. Chinese government has negative relations with the Dalai Lama (and the Tibetan Gov't in Exile). Hence such claims has to be verified by a reliable third party as per wiki guide lines.
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contributing "political, racial, geographic" factors to terrorism. Is Hamas fighting for the end of what it sees as Israeli occupation? Yes, but it's also fighting for Islam. Is the
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1. Regardless of your stance or POV on this article, I recommend you read this one - if this article truly has no merit then it will surely not survive the eventual obliteration.
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people have manipulated the teachings of religion to support their violent activities. Otherwise every crime commited by persons would have been accounted for a religion!
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article deals entirely with a political matter. It states that a priest has pulled down a party flag, burnt it and hoisted another flag. Besides it carries the topic
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events in the regions seems more political and ideological than with religion at closer look. The events should be moved to their own articles rather than
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Yet you still fail to provide a direct link to these terrorist act and Buddhism nor establish the existence of Buddhist terrorism. I fear this
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philosophy. So this article does not have the potential to become a good and neutral article. Everyone should remember that Knowledge is an
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1. For an article to be created/exist there should be an established basis, which has not been proven here. Wiki shouldn't be used for
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is associated with terrorism it should be mentioned in its own article. What does "has some real serious" accentually meanĀ ?
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I've never told that I know no instances of Buddhists committing terrorist acts. In fact, you might not know that several
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Also, who has actually even read these rules before applying this AfD to this newly created article? -: -->
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has some real serious foundations in Buddhist (and also Hindu teachings). This cult still exist today.
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Knowledge is to disperse knowledge on establish facts, not to be a platform for projecting theories.
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No RS has yet been forwarded to establish the fact at there is something called Buddhist terrorism
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see their own religions and belief systems being criticized. Here are a few points I have to raise:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion#Before_nominating_an_article_for_deletion
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arguments to delete this article can almost be construed as a form of censorship for your POV.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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There is still no conclusive data provided to prove the existence of Buddhist terrorism.
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haded parts of this article to another article that he/she has greatly contributed to:
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per poor coverage, and furthermore two of the four current references would not meet
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Its also funny to see that the guys that create and expand this article are mostly
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one by Amy Zalman, who has a Ph.D in Arabic modern literature and cultural history
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Please, keep wikiformatting to a minimum in your comments. Kindly have a look at
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after most of the sentences, therefore most of the article is not referenced.--
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to being a sock of a banned user and so I believe this vote should be ignored.
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until it grows, and and content-fork is warranted. Arguments above for
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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on the article before nomination. I have since removed them.
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Islamic terrorism, Christian terrorism, and Jewish terrorism
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Notable subject, yet the article needs a rewrite. Thanks.
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The question here where to move, I have observed that the
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I suggest that this article be deleted immediately.
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