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just about anything in martial arts. "McDojo" is just a way of saying a school is in some way bullshido. To redirect the broader term to something that would be considered a specific type of bullshido seems backwards to me. As for the term "bullshido" being offense, Knowledge (XXG) has articles on
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I would like to point out that "bullshido" and "McDojo" are rather different terms. A McDojo is a derogatory term for a bad school, while bullshido is a broader concept of fraud in martial arts, and can apply to books, movies, instructors, students, techniques, training methods, belt systems, and
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Is basically an advert for bullshido.com, a martial arts training site. Does not appear that anyone uses the term outside of them. In any case the article is nearly all first person. Not likely to ever be an encyclopedic article, and is essentially vanity. -
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