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The differences are minor. In particular they seem to have had several ways of using 'gatch', a silty expanding sand also referred to as gypsum. I found yet another variant: "The
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those days, but one followed the best track one could ... When bandits were caught, a tower four or five feet high would be built around them and filled to their necks with gatch or lime plaster." These are all forms of immurement.
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