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A couple of comments. First of all, the deletion tag is no ban on editing. Quite the contrary, if the issues raised can be solved via editing (for example by adding reliable sources to show notability), please go ahead and do so. Secondly, the sources added by
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sources still while there are literally dozens of un-sourced articles not even being considered for deletion. I know that OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is no argument to keep this, however I hope that the effort we as contributors of the
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is not a valid reason to keep this article. I'll look for sources for that magazine, and if none can be found, I'll nominate it for deletion, too.
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