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This is clearly original research, and POV. Many conclusions are drawn for the reader. Could this article be redeemed through massive editing? I suppose, but I'm not sure there'd be much left to justify the title. And unless you're going to limit the content to actual verifiable facts, it will remain
245:. I do not see how it is POV, much of what I've read is strictly documentation (with quotes!) of gay/lesbian/transgendered/bisexual characters in video games. I believe the entire article is very well done, it can be organized better imo, defantly not deleted though. --
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Started by Edward TJ Brown in 1999. This article was started by Brown in the Fall 2004. Please see his website for research notes." Recommendation:
307:- obviously needs lots of editing, but fascinating and useful topic. Unusual terms should be sourced, not automatically deleted - "gaymer + gay" for example gets over 6000 google hits and has its own webpage - see
103:. There's some silly stuff in here (Richard Simmons in Ring King? Come on) but it's a fairly even description of GLBT themes in video games, without making any ridiculous, unsubstantiated, or original claims.
235:. POV and original research. Only one source is given, which strongly reinforces both POV and original research. POV alone could be fixed, but original research is fatal and this article should go.
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88:. A good article that should be kept. I do recall discussion of the Richard Simmons issue when I was growing up.
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Welcome to Gaymer.org - a site for gay video gamers.
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