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This is clearly original research, and POV. Many conclusions are drawn for the reader. Could this article be redeemed through massive editing? I suppose, but I'm not sure there'd be much left to justify the title. And unless you're going to limit the content to actual verifiable facts, it will remain
245:. I do not see how it is POV, much of what I've read is strictly documentation (with quotes!) of gay/lesbian/transgendered/bisexual characters in video games. I believe the entire article is very well done, it can be organized better imo, defantly not deleted though. -- 333:
This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages.
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Knowledge (XXG) is not for original research, see last line in article, "Research Started by Edward TJ Brown in 1999. This article was started by Brown in the Fall 2004. Please see his website for research notes." Recommendation:
307:- obviously needs lots of editing, but fascinating and useful topic. Unusual terms should be sourced, not automatically deleted - "gaymer + gay" for example gets over 6000 google hits and has its own webpage - see 103:. There's some silly stuff in here (Richard Simmons in Ring King? Come on) but it's a fairly even description of GLBT themes in video games, without making any ridiculous, unsubstantiated, or original claims. 235:. POV and original research. Only one source is given, which strongly reinforces both POV and original research. POV alone could be fixed, but original research is fatal and this article should go. 299: 273: 41: 295:
to something less ridiculous sounding, clean up all the commentary and speculation on "who's gay and who's not", and remove the unsourced use of jocular terms like "gaymer". -
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but remove speculation and original research bits. Back in my day, video and computer games characters did not have sexuality, personality, or sometimes even
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Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
193:- I'd change the opening line though - I don't know that it's such an "infrequent occurence" especially with such a long list! -- 312: 69:. I have removed the offending line at the end of the article. Some one else insisted that the longer name was better. 88:. A good article that should be kept. I do recall discussion of the Richard Simmons issue when I was growing up. 213:
though it could use a little pruning. I doubt that the Ring King boxers were really aupposed to be gay.
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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender and crossdressing characters in video and arcade games
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Gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender characters in video and computer games
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Welcome to Gaymer.org - a site for gay video gamers.
91:Above vote is by anonymous user 199.17.123.47. 171:, though parts of it need a lot of editing. - 8: 285:POV/source issues that need to be fixed. - 140:I guess. The name could be shorter. — 161:This is a good topic for an article. 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 24: 1: 33:The result of the debate was 336:Please do not edit this page 29:This page is no longer live. 353: 265:, but consideer moving to 181:. POV, original research. 325:, but title's too long.-- 229:17:47, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC) 175:01:00, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC) 155:13:50, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC) 62:03:36, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC) 329:06:04, May 2, 2005 (UTC) 289:02:03, May 1, 2005 (UTC) 259:15:44, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC) 249:11:46, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC) 239:01:50, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC) 207:06:46, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC) 197:06:37, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC) 187:04:35, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC) 165:14:42, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC) 151:POV original research. - 144:16:19, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC) 134:07:34, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC) 107:07:23, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC) 95:14:42, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC) 80:14:42, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC) 319:02:22, 2005 May 2 (UTC) 300:09:39, 1 May 2005 (UTC) 274:00:09, 1 May 2005 (UTC) 42:18:48, 2 May 2005 (UTC) 215:Andrew Lenahan - 72:Above vote is by 58:as appropriate. 344: 315: 227: 224: 221: 218: 129: 126: 123: 352: 351: 347: 346: 345: 343: 342: 341: 340: 313: 281:, but has some 247:ShaunMacPherson 225: 222: 219: 216: 127: 124: 121: 51: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 350: 348: 331: 330: 320: 302: 290: 276: 260: 250: 240: 230: 208: 205:Simon Cursitor 198: 188: 176: 166: 156: 145: 135: 108: 105:A Man In Black 98: 97: 96: 83: 82: 81: 50: 45: 32: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 349: 339: 337: 328: 324: 321: 318: 316: 310: 306: 303: 301: 298: 294: 291: 288: 284: 280: 277: 275: 272: 268: 264: 261: 258: 254: 251: 248: 244: 241: 238: 234: 231: 228: 212: 209: 206: 202: 199: 196: 192: 189: 186: 184: 180: 177: 174: 170: 167: 164: 163:Ben Standeven 160: 157: 154: 149: 146: 143: 139: 136: 133: 119: 116: 112: 109: 106: 102: 99: 94: 93:Ben Standeven 90: 89: 87: 84: 79: 78:Ben Standeven 75: 71: 70: 68: 65: 64: 63: 61: 57: 49: 46: 44: 43: 40: 39:Ben Standeven 36: 30: 19: 335: 332: 322: 304: 292: 282: 278: 262: 252: 242: 232: 210: 200: 190: 178: 168: 158: 147: 137: 114: 110: 100: 85: 74:User:browned 66: 55: 52: 34: 28: 26: 173:Sean Curtin 56:Transwikify 297:Pioneer-12 287:Jacottier 195:Blackcats 60:Fifelfoo 153:Rholton 293:Rename 257:Leithp 233:Delete 183:Jayjg 179:Delete 148:Delete 283:major 271:Kappa 237:Quale 115:names 16:< 327:Prem 323:Keep 305:Keep 279:Keep 263:Keep 253:Keep 243:Keep 211:Keep 201:Keep 191:Keep 169:Keep 159:Keep 138:Keep 132:Talk 111:Keep 101:Keep 86:Keep 67:Keep 35:keep 223:bli 142:RJH 37:. 338:. 314:BD 311:-- 269:. 226:nd 220:ar 217:St 130:| 120:— 76:. 128:P 125:I 122:J

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
Ben Standeven
18:48, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
Gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender characters in video and computer games
Fifelfoo
User:browned
Ben Standeven
Ben Standeven
A Man In Black

Talk
RJH
Rholton
Ben Standeven
Sean Curtin
Jayjg

Blackcats
Simon Cursitor
Andrew Lenahan - Starblind
Quale
ShaunMacPherson
Leithp
Gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender and crossdressing characters in video and arcade games
Kappa
00:09, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
Jacottier
Pioneer-12
09:39, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
Welcome to Gaymer.org - a site for gay video gamers.

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