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255:-- I am especially bothered by the creator's statement that "So there are cases in which the creator has had to make the decision about which interpretation was to be represented in Geacron. Múzquiz acknowledges that "ideally other experts should have participated but it would have been impossible for them to agree" I think scholars will recoil against this claim ("experts surely will disagree so I will ignore them all") because it sharply decreases the validity and usefulness of the website, making it simply the toy of its creator rather than a source of knowledge. As far as I can tell no reliable independent source had endorsed it in any way. 422:
the approval of an AfC necessarily implies an objection to speedy for G11 or A7 or similar criteria is an interesting question we will need to resolve. I don't think it prevents speedy for things like copyvio or abuse that the orig. reviewer may have missed. More generally, I would support routine notification of the reviewer who approved the article as well as the creator when deletion process was started.
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I do not think it is wrong to decline a speedy on the grounds it would be better to discuss it here. Doing that does not in the least indicate approval of the article, just the opinion that it would be better if the community had a chance it see it more widely. I've done this fairly often, Whether
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probably notable--the sources seem adequate--but very highly promotional, to the point it would probably warrant a G11. Promotional features include, the extensive description of how the creator happened to get the idea for doing the project, the extensive quotes from the creator, making up about
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Lack of notability is not the only reason for deletion. Promotionalism to the extent that routine editing would not fix it is a speedy criterion, but we are certainly entitled to say that any substantial amount of promotionalism is reason why the article should be deleted, and remade by a more
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half the content; the section marked controversy is actually a section where the creator tries to defend himself against possible controversy in advance; the repeated use of the creators name; the space devoted to perfectly routine features of any such site.
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I have must have accidentally approved this, as I was working that day and likely confused this with another submission. Feel free to rewrite it, but I should have declined this as NPOV. Sorry about that, as I have no idea how that got past me.
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neutral editor if any should care to. (The reason would be the deterrence of promotional editing, and this is essentially the argument we use for speedy G5, creation by a banned editor, to deter sockpuppettry)
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is the best fix. Please provide arguments for either the web site not meeting notability or arguments in favor of blowing it (the Knowledge (XXG) article, not the web site) up and starting over.
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I am going to remain neutral in this AFD. This remark should not be construed as an endorsement or objection to either the speedy deletion rationale that of this AFD.
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as the decline reason of "Speedy deletion declined. accepted at WP:AFC by User:Kevin Rutherford, so deletion would not be uncontroversial" is no longer true per
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bearing on whether the web site qualifies for a Knowledge (XXG) article or whether this article is so hopeless that
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Don't worry about that too much, you know what they say about people that never make mistakes (those that never
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There is an argument for notability here, but as the nom observed, the article as written is hopelessly
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The fact that the website is "simply a toy of its creator" has little or no
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
451:. This would seem to be a case where the only remedy is 371: 120: 116: 112: 184: 198: 305:Promotional crap. How did this get through AfC? -- 455:. Too bad though. It looks like a cool website. - 43:). No further edits should be made to this page. 486:). No further edits should be made to this page. 233:list of Websites-related deletion discussions 8: 231:Note: This debate has been included in the 230: 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 372:his decline of the speedy deletion 24: 378:'s comment immediately above. 1: 503: 465:03:09, 30 March 2014 (UTC) 434:02:07, 30 March 2014 (UTC) 408:23:16, 29 March 2014 (UTC) 355:08:33, 30 March 2014 (UTC) 333:20:37, 29 March 2014 (UTC) 315:14:09, 29 March 2014 (UTC) 296:02:49, 29 March 2014 (UTC) 265:01:22, 29 March 2014 (UTC) 245:00:43, 29 March 2014 (UTC) 225:00:14, 29 March 2014 (UTC) 73:03:38, 5 April 2014 (UTC) 475:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 370:may want to reconsider 382:, the page creator, 345:anything... ;-). -- 48:The result was 406: 405: 389: 294: 293: 247: 56: 494: 477: 395: 394: 387: 376:Kevin Rutherford 368:Mr. Stradivarius 325:Kevin Rutherford 283: 282: 203: 202: 188: 140: 128: 110: 70: 63: 54: 34: 502: 501: 497: 496: 495: 493: 492: 491: 490: 484:deletion review 473: 364:Clerical remark 145: 136: 101: 85: 82: 66: 59: 41:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 500: 498: 489: 488: 468: 467: 441: 440: 439: 438: 437: 436: 411: 410: 360: 359: 358: 357: 336: 335: 317: 300: 299: 298: 249: 248: 206: 205: 142: 81: 76: 46: 45: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 499: 487: 485: 481: 476: 470: 469: 466: 462: 458: 454: 450: 446: 443: 442: 435: 431: 427: 426: 420: 417: 416: 415: 414: 413: 412: 409: 403: 399: 392: 385: 381: 377: 373: 369: 365: 362: 361: 356: 352: 348: 344: 340: 339: 338: 337: 334: 330: 326: 321: 318: 316: 312: 308: 304: 301: 297: 291: 287: 280: 276: 272: 268: 267: 266: 262: 258: 254: 251: 250: 246: 242: 238: 234: 229: 228: 227: 226: 222: 218: 217: 210: 201: 197: 194: 191: 187: 183: 179: 176: 173: 170: 167: 164: 161: 158: 155: 151: 148: 147:Find sources: 143: 139: 135: 132: 126: 122: 118: 114: 109: 105: 100: 96: 92: 88: 84: 83: 80: 77: 75: 74: 71: 69: 64: 62: 57: 51: 44: 42: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 474: 471: 444: 423: 418: 379: 363: 342: 319: 302: 270: 252: 214: 211: 207: 195: 189: 181: 174: 168: 162: 156: 146: 133: 67: 60: 53: 49: 47: 31: 28: 457:Ad Orientem 449:promotional 172:free images 347:Randykitty 307:Randykitty 480:talk page 237:• Gene93k 55:→ Call me 37:talk page 482:or in a 402:contribs 290:contribs 131:View log 39:or in a 419:Comment 391:davidwr 384:Celemin 380:However 303:Nuke it 279:davidwr 257:Rjensen 178:WP refs 166:scholar 104:protect 99:history 87:Geacron 79:Geacron 445:Delete 320:Delete 275:WP:TNT 271:direct 253:Delete 150:Google 108:delete 50:delete 430:talk 221:talk 193:JSTOR 154:books 138:Stats 125:views 117:watch 113:links 16:< 461:talk 398:talk 351:talk 329:talk 311:talk 286:talk 261:talk 241:talk 186:FENS 160:news 121:logs 95:talk 91:edit 61:Hahc 453:TNT 425:DGG 400:)/( 366:: 288:)/( 216:DGG 200:TWL 129:– ( 463:) 432:) 353:) 343:do 331:) 313:) 263:) 243:) 235:. 223:) 180:) 123:| 119:| 115:| 111:| 106:| 102:| 97:| 93:| 68:21 52:. 459:( 428:( 404:) 396:( 393:/ 349:( 327:( 309:( 292:) 284:( 281:/ 259:( 239:( 219:( 204:) 196:· 190:· 182:· 175:· 169:· 163:· 157:· 152:( 144:( 141:) 134:· 127:) 89:(

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