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only concern is how notable it is) and claims like "No other game engine recreation can match" would definitely need to be sourced, nor should we be predicting whether there might be more sources in future. The issue of other articles isn't relevant here either - if you think that another article doesn't have sufficient verifiability or notability, then feel free to raise that issue for that article. Also note that if the article is redirected/merged, then the content wouldn't be lost anyway, so that could trivially be undone if and when there is greater coverage in future.
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Agreed that this does not even assert notability. No 3rd party reliable sources (or any 3rd party sources), so this fails verifiability. Article has been tagged for a while, with no sign of improvement. I also note that there's nothing here that isn't or couldn't be on the software's own webpage, and
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either but do you question its notability? GemRB is very close to beta, all it misses is the level-up feature, then the popularity and press coverage will rise. Do you really want to delete an article that is already available in five languages (notability again?) just to add it back later? --
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