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48:. Those who point out there isn't actually any encyclopedic commentary in this article are correct — whether it is Wikisourceable or not, I am unclear as I do not work on that project (although I suspect it probably has all the biblical source material it wants by now). Thus, I think this is an AfD that does deal quite specifically with this version of this material. There seems to be a formative, but currently insubstantial suggestion that something similar to this could be done very much more satisfactorily, and possibly under a different title. - 158:
really about Genesis 1:1-3. It is about a comparision of major Bible translations. Notice that the pages that link to it are linking for that reason, and indeed Genesis 1:1-3 has a much more comprehensive list of Bible translations than do the individual verse pages. So I vote to keep it but
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This is an extremely valuable page to see a different old testament translations compared. I think that the all the Knowledge articles on Bible translations would be severely diminished without a single page where examples of each of the translations can be easily compared. The comparison of
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I have two comments. (A) Yes, I agree that this page is redundant with 1:1, 1:2, 1:3, but I vehemently oppose the idea that every Bible verse gets a separate Knowledge page. So I would rather delete 1:1, 1:2, and 1:3, and keep the Genesis 1:1-3 page. (B) Before deleting the article
120:: Thank you for that helpful information, Kinu. Genesis 1:1-1:3 all have individual articles (see the links at the bottom of this article), and all have similar comparisons between different versions of the verses. However, 323:. Important biblical verses which have probably been the object of enormous amounts of theological interpretation and allusions in art and literature over the centuries, but none of that is in this article. 359:
think that these particular verses are the most obvious one's to allow a comparison of Old Testament translations, and thus serve an extremely valuable role in the whole Bible translation domain.
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point that the page is really about a comparison rather than about a particular attempt per se to explain these verses, nonetheless, for the name to be consistent with other verses (such as
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If I have marked this for deletion in error, please forgive me. However, this article seems like something that should be on Wikisource, not here. Or perhaps merged with or linked from
370:), I think they have the correct Knowledge title - by all means have a redirect page called "Comparison of Old Testament verses" or do a link of the type ], but leave the name as is. 124:
especially has some information that could be worth keeping. Perhaps keep this article with added commentary, keep Genesis 1:1 for notability and good information, and delete
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book, and that is really what this is. Many of the translations themselves expressly state just how many verses can reasonably be taken. For example, the
231:. Not again. Source text belongs on Wikisource. Comparisons are original research and belong on the creator's website, or Wikibooks at best. Get going. 258:
Having an article for every verse might be a copyright violation. An article that quotes several verses for a specific purpose is not.
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I used your reasoning, that it's merely a list of translations, to come to my conclusion. Nothing to explain. --
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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rename it something like "Old Testament Translation Samples" or something along those lines.
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Can you clarify? You said "delete per Lawrence King", but my vote was to keep and rename.
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is free, provided that they do not comprise a whole book, nor more than 50% of the work".
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There is of course no copyright violation of taking small quotes from almost
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support having hundreds (or even thousands) of verses on Knowledge, but I
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
351:is nearly worthless due to their similarity. I do 173:per Lawrence King - Knowledge is not Wikisource -- 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 277:states that: "Use of up to 1000 verses from the 394:). No further edits should be made to this page. 8: 154:. It seems to me that this article is 7: 151:, take a look at what links to it: 24: 18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion 1: 375:16:11, 15 February 2006 (UTC) 332:13:31, 12 February 2006 (UTC) 316:20:13, 10 February 2006 (UTC) 300:18:54, 10 February 2006 (UTC) 286:16:16, 15 February 2006 (UTC) 263:00:13, 11 February 2006 (UTC) 250:18:32, 10 February 2006 (UTC) 236:16:40, 10 February 2006 (UTC) 218:00:48, 12 February 2006 (UTC) 198:06:21, 10 February 2006 (UTC) 189:05:56, 10 February 2006 (UTC) 164:03:54, 10 February 2006 (UTC) 55:20:46, 15 February 2006 (UTC) 44:The result of the debate was 137:21:18, 9 February 2006 (UTC) 111:20:58, 9 February 2006 (UTC) 95:20:56, 9 February 2006 (UTC) 75:20:49, 9 February 2006 (UTC) 411: 387:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 307:, we already have a 347:versions shown on 216: 187: 132:as unnecessary? - 53: 402: 389: 206: 177: 144:Keep but rename. 104:this information 52: 34: 410: 409: 405: 404: 403: 401: 400: 399: 398: 392:deletion review 385: 364:Lawrence King's 279:Good News Bible 275:Good News Bible 64: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 408: 406: 397: 396: 380: 379: 378: 377: 360: 341: 340: 334: 318: 313:132.205.45.110 302: 289: 288: 267: 266: 265: 253: 252: 247:Carlossuarez46 239: 238: 225: 224: 223: 222: 221: 220: 167: 166: 140: 139: 114: 113: 97: 63: 58: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 407: 395: 393: 388: 382: 381: 376: 373: 372:Brusselsshrek 369: 365: 362:I understand 361: 358: 354: 350: 345: 344: 343: 342: 338: 335: 333: 330: 329:u p p l a n d 326: 322: 319: 317: 314: 310: 306: 303: 301: 298: 294: 291: 290: 287: 284: 283:Brusselsshrek 280: 276: 272: 268: 264: 261: 260:Lawrence King 257: 256: 255: 254: 251: 248: 244: 243:Speedy Delete 241: 240: 237: 234: 230: 227: 226: 219: 214: 210: 205: 201: 200: 199: 196: 195:Lawrence King 192: 191: 190: 185: 181: 176: 172: 169: 168: 165: 162: 161:Lawrence King 157: 153: 150: 149:Genesis 1:1-3 145: 142: 141: 138: 135: 131: 127: 123: 119: 116: 115: 112: 109: 105: 101: 98: 96: 93: 90: 86: 82: 79: 78: 77: 76: 73: 69: 62: 61:Genesis 1:1-3 59: 57: 56: 51: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 386: 383: 363: 356: 352: 336: 320: 304: 292: 278: 270: 242: 228: 170: 155: 143: 117: 99: 84: 80: 65: 45: 43: 31: 28: 349:Genesis 1:1 337:Strong Keep 325:Genesis 1:1 130:Genesis 1:3 126:Genesis 1:2 122:Genesis 1:1 83:per nom or 368:John 3:16 311:article. 204:Thesquire 175:Thesquire 213:contribs 184:contribs 134:Danaman5 92:Ryanjunk 72:Danaman5 309:Genesis 118:Comment 100:Comment 89:Genesis 68:Genesis 321:Delete 293:Delete 233:Stifle 229:Delete 171:Delete 102:: See 81:Delete 50:Splash 46:DELETE 305:DELTE 87:with 85:Merge 16:< 209:talk 180:talk 128:and 108:Kinu 106:. -- 353:not 297:RJH 271:any 156:not 70:? - 357:do 211:- 182:- 339:. 215:) 207:( 186:) 178:(

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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
Splash
20:46, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Genesis 1:1-3
Genesis
Danaman5
20:49, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
Genesis
Ryanjunk
20:56, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
this information
Kinu
20:58, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
Genesis 1:1
Genesis 1:2
Genesis 1:3
Danaman5
21:18, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
Genesis 1:1-3

Lawrence King
03:54, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Thesquire
talk
contribs
05:56, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Lawrence King
06:21, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Thesquire

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