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494:: Software has been obviously cited by third party and referenced in article. Article is a stub, but should not be marked for deletion. I have not seen any arguments made so far that the article violates wiki policy. Also, those that are making comments here should sign there entries and comments using four tildas. Even though founder of company created article, the article appears to maintain a Neutral POV and does not violoate 543:, is genuinely interesting. But it's not just a technology company; its lead personnel are very much industry people focussed on business and product. It's taken a fair amount of time for the code to get through the development pipeline and into live games, but that does now appear to have happened. 466:
was designed to point to the holding area for DICE documents, rather than the precise document itself. The reference clearly states that the source material is the talk 'Lighting you up in Battlefield 3'. This is available in multiple formats on the landing page and it seemed better to let the viewer
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All Frostbite 2 titles use Enlighten, and that includes Need for Speed. But the publisher will not always highlight technology used in a title. That is the main interest of pages like this one. Future students interested in how games are made will be able to work out what technology was used in what
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I did deliberately chose a userid that identified me as the company founder. I thought that was more honest than inventing a generic id and hiding behind a different email address. I tried to satisfy all NPOV guidelines and have no problem with a Conflict of Interest note on the
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The Edge link has now been corrected and points to the relevant article. Edge have moved their pages recently. There are quite a few articles on Geomerics on Edge. They can all be referenced if necessary, but equally they are easy to find by someone wanting to dig
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Since the initial discussion I have added some more links. Its pretty easy to find stories on Geomerics written by neutral commentators, but the reference section on a Knowledge page should be more than just a Google
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The DICE reference clearly DOES state that Frostbite 2 uses Enlighten. The slide says that they wanted 'Real-time radiosity' and the way they got it was using Enlighten.
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game. Whether that is information worth capturing in Knowledge is obviously for the community to reach a consensus on. A similar page is that dedicated to
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There is some evidence their product is used in some recent video games. This information could be merged into the relevant pages (e.g.
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From the contested PROD: No indication of meeting notability guidelines. Article creator has an apparent WP:conflict of interest.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Other references are computer graphics conferences proceedings in DICE and SIGGRAPH 2011. The
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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since the nomination, and the subsequent "keep" opinions have remained unopposed.
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mentions the product as a "want" and that it was used in Battlefield 3, and the
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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Just to add: we cover quite a range of software in this sort of area in
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Some minor comments on the above points. Hope they are helpful:
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guidelines and should not be an issue in this AoD discussion.
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Delete or merge product usage into relevant game articles
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basically describes what it used, not where it is used.
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
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