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happens to be the Museum Director of). Moseley was severely injured in the jump, and was described by witnesses as having such a severe broken leg that the bone protruded from his trousers, yet he refused medical attention, unsuccesfully tried to capture a horse to direct his troops from, and actually did direct them from a wheelbarrow. He only relinquished command after the Commanding General of the Division ordered him to do so because of his intense pain and the severe injury. When Knowledge (XXG) keeps articles of such trifling nature and transitory interest as the 'biographies' of obscure, minor cartoon characters, it is a travesty that an article about a famous war hero of real WWII history be omitted. This seems opposed to everything Knowledge (XXG) stands for. Granted, the article is currently weak in content and deserves expansion. I would add that one of the iconic photo series of the D-Day operations, and even World War II, is that of General Eisenhower accompanied by this same Colonel Moseley reviewing his paratroopers just prior to the invasion, and this photo should also be added to the article.
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Forget the movies and the medals. Here is a man who not only and commanded, trained and but parachuted into Normandy with the 502d Parachute Infantry Regiment of the 101st Airborne Division in the pre dawn darkness of D-Day 1944. He refused to be evacuated, commanding his regiment from a 2 wheeled
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Article has been tagged for lack of notability for over a year, and with good reason, for the subject isn't notable. Biography of an American officer in World War II whose greatest claim of notability appears to be (1) being one of several people who were together made a composite single character
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To the contrary: there's a full biography from a reliable source that's linked to Sink's article, while there's nothing of such a sort for Moseley. Simply doing what you say he did (and I'm sure you're correct) doesn't make him at all notable, unlike receiving significant coverage as Sink has.
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Contrary to the original comment, Van Horn Moseley is not just 'any army officer'. He was one of the Army's first airborne officers, commander of one of the U.S. Army's crack Parachute Infantry Regiments, of perhaps it's most famous Division, the 101st Airborne (the Division which this writer
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Tons of phone books have been written for my county since I was born, so we have many reliable sources to verify my father's phone number, but that doesn't make him notable. Would these "tons of books" really amount to significant coverage?
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guidelines. The article has been expanded. Seven citations were added in the year prior to its nomination for deletion. Numerous additional internal and external references have been added in the past four days with more to
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The sources are probably sufficient. Tons of books have been written over the airborne operations in Normandy, so I suspect that all regimental/brigade commanders in the British and US airborne units would pass
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There are two people with this name: the father, General George Van Horn Moseley (1874-1960), and son, Colonel George Van Horn Moseley Jr. (1905-1976). There are reliable sources for both of these men.
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The lack of notability does not detract from the honorable service to his country by this individual. The story/character that shows some notability is not the subject, however. --
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of Band of Brothers fame, has a better written and more complete article but is in actual fact no more notable. The article on Moseley should be strengthened not deleted.
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The subject does not appear to be notable. As stated above, there may be information available to change that opinion but I couldn,t find it. --
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Hmm... I'm confused. Those search results identify him as a general, but the article says he was a colonel. Are these the same person? --
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There is no lack of notability, this subject has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject.
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Several references have been added during the AfD, and it is not clear to what degree these have been taken into account.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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should be doing a google book search. There seems to be good deal of sources related to this subject.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
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