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343:- Politicians are the one category of biographies to whom GNG is generally not applied; instead a Special Notability high bar is frequently used, giving automatic passes to elected members of national and provincial assemblies, tending to give easy passes to national and provincial party leaders, and dealing with unelected politicians harshly on a case by case basis. Elected members of city councils are a grey area, with those of major metropolitan areas almost always kept while those of tiny towns usually treated as self-serving promotion. And so here we have a bio that is in the grey area of the grey area, an elected city council member from a mid-sized city. My opinion is that we should keep this one and here's why: it's a tolerably well done piece, it's a tolerably well sourced piece, and Knowledge (XXG) is better off with the piece than without it. Ignore All Rules, Use Common Sense. 312:. There are several hundred articles with her exact name and "Hamilton" I found using Proquest. I only added one to to article so far, on her leaving council, which was an indepth piece exclusively about her. Below I listed a few other substantive pieces. The only thing preventing a comphrensive full length well cited article is somebody having the large amount of time/interest required. Given the poor state of the article, I won't cry if it's deleted, but think it does technically meet the requirements to be kept. -- 224:. The article is "referenced", but only in a very poor style that includes the name of the newspaper and the date, but not the actual title of the reference in question — making it effectively an unreferenced article anyway, since the references aren't verifiable as things currently stand. And even then, none of the content suggests that she's more notable in any substantive way than most other city councillors who don't qualify for articles. 178: 56:
was not met. This subject did have some mention in sourcing apart from her political career, raising the possibility of keeping under the GNG, but the invocation of NOTINERITED seems appropriate.
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Copps apologizes for 'waste capital of world' quip: / Humphreys, Adrian. The Hamilton Spectator 22 July 1993: A1/ FRONT.
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Most of her mention in news media is inhereted from her late husband or her daughter. She is not independently notable.
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Mom, and colleagues, left out when minister spoke: / Peters, KenView Profile. The Spectator 06 May 1994: B1.
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of a city councillor in a city not large enough to confer notability on its city councillors under
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be notable by virtue of their office, but Hamilton is nowhere near large enough to qualify. --
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Liberal MP's mother won't be renamed citizenship judge: / The Gazette 12 Mar 1985: B6.
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Copps quits Sludgegate probe team: / The Hamilton Spectator 19 Feb 1992: B3.
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pass POLITICIAN (husband was a mayor, daughter was a federal MP) — but
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