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396:– Have looked around for info on the club's history (hard to come by). As best I can tell, GHFA had a number of youth teams which were the youth system of Northern Spirit FC. When Northern Spirit (the senior club) ceased to exist, the GHFA formed Spirit FC with the same youth teams and a new senior team through a merger with another club in order to keep a senior team in operation. 56:. There is clearly no consensus for an outright deletion, but there have been several who have argued for merging and redirecting. I have looked at the comments and sources, and see that a reasonable case can be made that Glades Hornsby is in some ways a successor to the disbanded Northern Spirit FC, and that the proposals to merge has sufficient merit to do that. 365:.The National Premier Leagues system was created in 2013 and serves as a nationwide second league for Australia (and within itself, containing the 2nd through 5th divisions of Australian football). Quite a few of the teams playing in this league played in the national comp as late as 2004, before the formation of the A-League... 330:
and given the two clubs' similarity in name and geography). Sources/a detailed history which confirms/denies this are hard to come by. Depending on the conclusion it may be appropriate to merge the two articles (given that Northern Spirit satisfies notability guidelines). Northern Spirit, however, is
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in reliable sources, per the GNG. The sources mentioned above do not address the subject directly and in detail, which the GNG rightly requires. If the sources can't even give us reliable information about what this club is and how it came about, that's a pretty good indication that the GNG test
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Amateur football club, with no evidence of playing for any significant league. Was tagged for A7 - correctly in my view - but the article creator strongly disputes this and is claiming notability. Since it won't hurt to wait a week, I thought a proper AfD discussion would be best.
355:. I feel that many, if not all of the teams entering into this competition deserve their own page. This team plays in the 3rd tier of Australian football. There are roughly 100 teams in the 10th tier of the English pyramid that have their own Knowledge (XXG) article, many of whom 431:
shows the initial formation of Spirit FC, and mentions that the club will need seniors in order to play in future seasons (which it would seem subsequently led to the merger). As a result of both of these I would reaffirm that the page should be kept.
170: 617:, as a member of the, then top-flight NSL. I believe playing in a national top-flight football competition leads to notability? As for GHFA Spirit FC and linking the two, that is something I don't fully understand or have an opinion on.-- 96: 91: 100: 572:- in the interest of achieving consensus, it seems to be noteworthy that no one seems to be opposed to a merge/redirect (except for the initial two editors who may have been unaware of the facts discussed since)? 457:
as it appears this is where their youth teams now continue. No notability surrounding the men's team. By definition, playing in the regional qualifying rounds of a national competition is insufficient to satisfy
83: 164: 130: 87: 260: 405:("In 2005, pressed into linking with a senior group, Gladesville Spirit United was formed"). Interesting also that some sources clearly view the two clubs as a single entity ( 240: 123: 79: 71: 463: 409:). The name itself also clearly indicates some degree of continuity. As a result, I'd suggest 'keep, as a club which is the product of a merger involving a notable club. 280: 349:
As the author of the article, I do agree that there is very little information available about this particular club. The reason why I created this page, is due two-fold:
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Hard to know what to do here/make of this as a result. The most reliable source which confirms this (in passing) is an article from the club's official website quoted
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Agree that this may be a good solution. Club may well become notable in its own right in the future but for now not a lot of information out there.
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The second reason I created this article is that teams such as this, I feel should link to larger articles with more information about them,
356: 192: 17: 376: 220: 210: 158: 352: 600: 501:- I'm not sure if this should be kept or merged. Either way, I think it's clear that Delete isn't the correct outcome. 40: 424: 327: 362: 307: 596: 560: 531: 323: 36: 471: 208: 178: 60: 520: 459: 454: 384: 372: 319: 53: 577: 487: 437: 414: 340: 304: 288: 268: 248: 228: 29:
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
622: 556: 462:. Wider GNG concerns still exist and am inclined to support the closing admin's comments in 366: 332: 550:(to the target mentioned above). Absolutely reasonable argument can be made that there is 506: 467: 203: 57: 380: 375:, I'd have no problem with that, provided we can find the evidence to back this up. 573: 483: 433: 410: 406: 336: 284: 264: 244: 224: 379:
states that the Northern Spirit played there and now the ground is owned by GHFA.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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Have now managed to find some more reliable sources on the subject.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
113: 109: 105: 177: 359:. Are they truly worthy of being counted as notable? 530:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 223:'s list of association football-related deletions. 191: 261:list of Organizations-related deletion discussions 80:Gladesville Hornsby Football Association Spirit FC 72:Gladesville Hornsby Football Association Spirit FC 357:entered into the preliminary rounds of the FA Cup 43:). No further edits should be made to this page. 603:). No further edits should be made to this page. 241:list of Australia-related deletion discussions 353:Fourth Round of NSW's 2014 FFA Cup qualifiers 281:list of Football-related deletion discussions 8: 335:) but nonetheless a relevant consideration. 279:Note: This debate has been included in the 259:Note: This debate has been included in the 239:Note: This debate has been included in the 219:Note: This discussion has been included in 278: 258: 238: 613:-Some kind of page is required to detail 427:describes the change as a "name change". 371:As for GHFA Spirit FC redirecting to 331:widely regarded as having disbanded ( 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 351:Firstly, the team qualified for the 24: 1: 627:04:47, 4 September 2014 (UTC) 303:- no evidence of notability. 377:This Knowledge (XXG) article 369:competes under this banner. 643: 582:12:59, 19 July 2014 (UTC) 565:11:53, 17 July 2014 (UTC) 535:10:34, 15 July 2014 (UTC) 511:22:55, 13 July 2014 (UTC) 492:13:13, 12 July 2014 (UTC) 66:18:58, 27 July 2014 (UTC) 592:Please do not modify it. 476:15:08, 9 July 2014 (UTC) 442:05:20, 9 July 2014 (UTC) 419:01:32, 9 July 2014 (UTC) 389:12:41, 8 July 2014 (UTC) 367:Even an ex-A-League team 345:09:29, 8 July 2014 (UTC) 311:14:09, 7 July 2014 (UTC) 293:13:41, 7 July 2014 (UTC) 273:13:41, 7 July 2014 (UTC) 253:13:40, 7 July 2014 (UTC) 233:13:40, 7 July 2014 (UTC) 213:08:22, 7 July 2014 (UTC) 32:Please do not modify it. 464:this similar discussion 552:significant coverage 466:as being pertinant. 221:WikiProject Football 615:Northern Spirit FC 455:Northern Spirit FC 451:Merge and Redirect 373:Northern Spirit FC 320:Northern Spirit FC 54:Northern Spirit FC 48:The result was 537: 295: 275: 255: 235: 63: 634: 594: 529: 525: 322:(as can be seen 218: 196: 195: 181: 133: 121: 103: 61: 34: 642: 641: 637: 636: 635: 633: 632: 631: 607: 601:deletion review 590: 518: 138: 129: 94: 78: 75: 41:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 640: 638: 630: 629: 606: 605: 585: 584: 567: 540: 539: 538: 527: 526: 515: 514: 513: 495: 494: 479: 478: 447: 446: 445: 444: 398: 397: 391: 370: 360: 350: 347: 313: 297: 296: 276: 256: 236: 199: 198: 135: 74: 69: 46: 45: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 639: 628: 624: 620: 616: 612: 609: 608: 604: 602: 598: 593: 587: 586: 583: 579: 575: 571: 568: 566: 562: 558: 553: 549: 545: 542: 541: 536: 533: 528: 524: 522: 517: 516: 512: 508: 504: 500: 497: 496: 493: 489: 485: 481: 480: 477: 473: 469: 465: 461: 456: 452: 449: 448: 443: 439: 435: 430: 426: 422: 421: 420: 416: 412: 408: 404: 400: 399: 395: 392: 390: 386: 382: 378: 374: 368: 364: 358: 354: 348: 346: 342: 338: 334: 329: 325: 321: 317: 314: 312: 309: 306: 302: 299: 298: 294: 290: 286: 282: 277: 274: 270: 266: 262: 257: 254: 250: 246: 242: 237: 234: 230: 226: 222: 217: 216: 215: 214: 211: 209: 207: 206: 194: 190: 187: 184: 180: 176: 172: 169: 166: 163: 160: 157: 154: 151: 148: 144: 141: 140:Find sources: 136: 132: 128: 125: 119: 115: 111: 107: 102: 98: 93: 89: 85: 81: 77: 76: 73: 70: 68: 67: 64: 59: 55: 51: 44: 42: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 614: 610: 591: 588: 569: 555:isn't met.-- 551: 547: 543: 532:NorthAmerica 519: 499:Don't Delete 498: 450: 407:such as here 393: 363:such as this 333:as seen here 315: 300: 204: 200: 188: 182: 174: 167: 161: 155: 149: 139: 126: 49: 47: 31: 28: 557:Mkativerata 165:free images 468:Fenix down 205:Ritchie333 597:talk page 460:WP:FOOTYN 285:• Gene93k 265:• Gene93k 245:• Gene93k 225:• Gene93k 58:Sjakkalle 37:talk page 599:or in a 548:redirect 521:Relisted 429:This one 425:This one 381:J man708 124:View log 62:(Check!) 39:or in a 611:Comment 574:Macosal 570:Comment 484:Macosal 434:Macosal 411:Macosal 337:Macosal 316:Comment 308:Snowman 171:WP refs 159:scholar 97:protect 92:history 619:TinTin 544:Delete 301:Delete 143:Google 101:delete 503:Nfitz 453:- to 305:Giant 186:JSTOR 147:books 131:Stats 118:views 110:watch 106:links 52:with 50:merge 16:< 623:talk 578:talk 561:talk 507:talk 488:talk 472:talk 438:talk 415:talk 403:here 394:Keep 385:talk 341:talk 328:here 324:here 289:talk 269:talk 249:talk 229:talk 179:FENS 153:news 114:logs 88:talk 84:edit 546:or 326:or 193:TWL 122:– ( 625:) 580:) 563:) 509:) 490:) 474:) 440:) 417:) 387:) 343:) 291:) 283:. 271:) 263:. 251:) 243:. 231:) 173:) 116:| 112:| 108:| 104:| 99:| 95:| 90:| 86:| 621:( 576:( 559:( 505:( 486:( 470:( 436:( 413:( 383:( 339:( 287:( 267:( 247:( 227:( 197:) 189:· 183:· 175:· 168:· 162:· 156:· 150:· 145:( 137:( 134:) 127:· 120:) 82:(

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