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I'll elaborate and note that in my experience, a common counter to our objection is for the defenders to present a discussion of the sources and tell us why they are reliable. This has not happened, we still know very little about the sources other than they look rather unreliable based on the
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to delete. There is no consensus below as to whether the sources in the article are sufficient to support notability under the GNG or not. If better sources do not appear in the near future a subsequent nomination at AfD may be reasonable.
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While I am not certain if the magazine is non-notable in reality, I am sure its current form on pl-wiki does not satisfy the credibility&notability criteria, so it should not be used as an argument for keeping this article.
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I'd feel more confient in that after AfDing that article on pl wiki, which I may do. A specialized regional fashion magazine with a claim of 15,000 publication volume, using only one self-ref... --
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Please note that the discussion here is not about the magazine (which does not have its en wiki entry), but about a biography which uses the said magazine as one of its sources. --
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Maybe fashion blogging in Poland is more notable/encyclopedic than Glamourina's individual contribution. Could an editor develop such aspect and redirect the current article?
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Can you please check the references as they are now? They changed quite a bit since the day you first PRODded it, on November 10, and I believe the article now meets
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As I wrote above, the pl-wiki article on the magazine cannot be used as an argument to keep the article about the person. If it was unclear, sorry ;)
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I checked. Yes, they are nicely formatted, but can you tell me how any of them are reliable? --
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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A concern is that the sources are not reliable (blogs, self-published, and such). --
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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For the record, I nominated the magazine for AfD at pl wiki (
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this article about a completely non-notable person. -
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No further edits should be made to this page. 192:Wikipedia_talk:POLAND#Prod_proposal:_Glamourina 8: 241:list of Authors-related deletion discussions 239:Note: This debate has been included in the 219:list of Fashion-related deletion discussions 217:Note: This debate has been included in the 718:- my grasp of Polish is extremely limited 493:I believe there is enough here to satisfy 238: 216: 722:... yes, I'd say there's enough there. 689:Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 641:Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 612:Second: it clearly DOES NOT meet the 594:Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 522:Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 371:Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 330:Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 309:Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 265:- I don't know, I can't read Polish. 201:Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 286:seems to be a newspaper of record. 24: 1: 744:16:19, 28 November 2011 (UTC) 699:17:54, 28 November 2011 (UTC) 678:06:34, 28 November 2011 (UTC) 651:01:00, 28 November 2011 (UTC) 629:00:54, 28 November 2011 (UTC) 604:00:40, 28 November 2011 (UTC) 583:22:47, 27 November 2011 (UTC) 553:07:02, 26 November 2011 (UTC) 532:18:29, 26 November 2011 (UTC) 515:23:30, 25 November 2011 (UTC) 484:21:58, 23 November 2011 (UTC) 467:19:55, 23 November 2011 (UTC) 446:02:01, 23 November 2011 (UTC) 402:20:38, 26 November 2011 (UTC) 381:00:45, 23 November 2011 (UTC) 360:03:56, 22 November 2011 (UTC) 340:00:45, 23 November 2011 (UTC) 319:23:47, 21 November 2011 (UTC) 298:13:55, 17 November 2011 (UTC) 275:20:36, 16 November 2011 (UTC) 255:00:37, 16 November 2011 (UTC) 233:00:37, 16 November 2011 (UTC) 211:19:10, 15 November 2011 (UTC) 63:05:01, 1 December 2011 (UTC) 519:Can you define "enough"? 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Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus

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