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Vancouver that have their own articles and are shorter and in some cases newer. Also, I am of the view that many roads should be included because you cant get info some info about them from a map and some people absorb information better from a paragraph than a graphic. For instance Glover's former name is not on any common map, and when I find out who it was named after that may be of interest as well. Some information that cannot be included on road maps can only be posted on wikipedia - for instance plans for development, etc. People need a place to retain information in context (history, current events, relationships). My point is that what seemed superfluous yesterday may be progressive educationally tomorrow. I'd recommend keeping this article and encouraging its development along with other major roads. You really never know what others find useful and informative.
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Westside Road next. Again I think you may need to debate why there are links to these roads if any thing at all. If it is decided to delete this article, then "Strathcona Parkway" should also be deleted.
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The reason I wrote this article was to help fill in the "Roads of
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attesting to the road's status and significance — most minor unnumbered routes have been deleted if valid sources couldn't be provided, but there are still a lot of lurking redlinks because other highway articles haven't gotten cleaned up to reflect the consensus against the automatic notability of
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As well, I have reviewed the other articles on roads in the BC area: it should be noted that we here in BC are very liberal in writing about our roads - there are numerous entries for major streets in the region that are shorter or less prominent than Glover Road. Glover Road is very important for
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Langley at one end to the origins of the (separate) City of Langley at the other end. It has been proposed that the article be redirected to Fort Langley and to Highway 10. Given that each only covers a portion, it would be inappropriate to redirect to one of them. While international fame
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I understand what your trying to say and it would fit if I woke up one day and decided to write and article about Glover Road. However, I decided to write the article to fill in the holes so to speak on the major provincially maintained roads list - which by the way does include some regionally
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Vancouver or Toronto or New York City have a much better chance of actually being
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Langley and has historical significance with its former life as a trail. If this article is deleted it would bring other articles into question regarding more minor routes.
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