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independent source in the Chinese Knowledge article that has significant coverage of the person. I am unable to find independent source about the person myself (I searched articles from 2004 in Baidu news), most search engine hits are about his opinion, and his employer and the think tanks he's in do not count as independent sources. Given the person is an opinion leader (quote a lot of news articles cite his opinions), sooner or later an independent sources will write about himself. But the article, as it currently stands, fails the basic notability criteria for biographies. --
384:. Msrasnw has provided enough evidence that the subject is considered a leader in the field of Chinese liberalism. I note that this hasn't yet been flagged for the attention of editors interested in Chinese topics, which may explain the lack of participation here so far by people with a better ability to find sources in Chinese (although Msrasnw has made valiant efforts). 482:. Me too. Professor Gu Su is an important Chinese thinker and one of the leading, university-based, advocates of political reform. His work reflects this very well, as does his extensive connections throughout Chinese society. I realize creating your own pages is against Knowledge's best practice rules, but it's not a vanity page but thoroughly merited. 524:
Citation is what proves notability as a scholar, not sources about their personal life. Scholars , opinion leaders, writers, athletes, musicians, are notable for what they do professionally, and sources that show a person an expert show notability. The only people who are actually notable for their
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by nominator: I did not mean to imply the subject was not notable or that anything in the article was incorrect. I was under the impression that this project does not accept articles on a person created by that same person, not least because unless the subject is known well enough for such articles
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Citation alone proves nothing about the paper's notability (the citing paper either fail the "significant coverage" test or fails the fair use principle), let lone the author's. Need to find source focusing the person, but it looks like the person himself is unable to find them, there is no
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91 citations. This seems a reasonably large amount of notice - notability - given GS poor coverage of Chinese Scholarship. One can find more of his work on Worldcat and then citations via GS but I am afraid my Mandarin skills are shall we say
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editors, they may tend to be very unbalanced, as their creators themselves would seem unlikely to include anything that might cast them in a negative light. After a more thorough look at
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over issues of political, constitutional, and legal reform; modes of governance in urban and rural China; and culture and cultural policy
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Gu, S. (2003). Zi you zhu yi ji ben li nian =: Essential ideas of liberalism. Beijing: Zhong yang bian yi chu ban she.
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personal life are society figures who have done nothing in particular except being written about.
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has created an earlier incarnation of this article. I proposed its deletion in January 2007.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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I think the case for keeping the article is strengthened by Su having a chapter in
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and I am reliant on the wonders of GTranslate but I think there seems enough for a
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is his key work. Google Scholar lists this I think as 自由主义基本理念 and reports here
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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deleted it in February 2007, hopefully after careful deliberation.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions
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resurrected the article in August 2008. According to
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available to English-language readers debates among
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