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682:). A program doesn't become notable by being listed on a large station - for much the same reason a word isn't necessarily significant for being in a large dictionary. "Big channel" or "big TV company" doesn't necessarily mean the programs listed on it gained notice from the wider world, and that's the issue notability is looking at. We're trying to assess the quality and extent of attention it got in reliable sources 554:
you that if you are trying to save this article, you are going about it the wrong way. People have previously turned AfDs around by making a good case for notability which persuades other people to change their mind. But when the defence is simply claiming you're not allowed to nominate the article for deletion, that tactic (along with abuse and arbitrary claims of grandeur) usually stops most people listening.
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Really? I don't know how more notable a programming schedule from a website owned by the on of, if not THE largest Non-Sky owned satellite company in Europe I can possibly get then. It airs on ThatGuyWithTheGlasses too, a site that was voted on for an AfD itself, but deemed notable enough to keep.
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the wider world to take notice - a big difference. Look for evidence it got significant coverage (in the sense of atention, not market size) in other credible published sources that are independent of its makers and broadcasters, or awards, or special mentions, or the like, that's much more the kind
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I understand, would information from Information TV's website suffice as notability? (as the show airs on several of their channels on Sky/freeview now. I believe press releases exist on GamesPress.com and also many articvles on places like ThatGurWithTheGlasses.com, ScrewAttack.com, Retroware TV
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Loopholes avoid rules, and I don't understand which rule you think the nominator is avoiding. The only rule you seem to think has been evaded is a rule against nominating the same article for deletion twice, and as I and others have pointed out, that is considered perfectly legitimate. I should warn
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Thanks for your help (also for the article) I'll have a look around, see what I can come up with. I'd have liked to have put it up as notable for being the world's first full Retro gaming TV show, but I'm going to have great difficulty proving as there's no "first" lists Etc.
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is your answer. Just because X is closely associated with notable Y doesn't mean X is notable in its own right. Note that none of the individual TGWTG personalities has a page here, because none of them has sufficient standalone notability. Not even the Nostalgia Critic.
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Why not? The previous discussion was closed with the observation that this article was being discussed. Now we're discussing it. Why should we have to wait an arbitrary amount of time to discuss the notability of an article we didn't properly discuss last time?
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The article here is much better founded. The series lasted, there are cites in the article, there is a visible reason why it might be notable. There is almost no discussion at this AFD either to show any consensus to delete.
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You missed the phrase "without prejudice to future discussion". This is the future discussion, and this article will stay or go depending on the outcome of this discussion. Previous AfDs never tie the hands of future AfDs.
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Had one for well over a year and Spoony's has merged to be more about himself, as with Doug Walker. But my first comment about considering one of the largest Satelitte broadcasters in Europe to be noteable still stands.
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I thought this was to be kept? there are several notable links in there, from press releases from GamesPress.com amongst others. Not to mention the show is still on Sky TV, Freesat and Freeview airing on
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Host's article was deleted for lack of notability; and I'm not seeing any individual notability for the show. This was bundled into the host's AFD, but kept as no-consensus due to no one addressing the
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some of the information not already in the main article. Can't see any evidence of notability independent of the show it spun off from.
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So the same person can put up an AfD the day after? (like what has happened here) That hardly seems a reasonable action.--
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All the sources added by Firecracker were primary sources. Still doesn't cut it for notability IMO.
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I have added several refrences to TV networks it currently airs on, as well as several websites.--
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doesn't even assert notability aside from the totally uncited "popular" in the first sentence.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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It just seems like a loophole for someone with a personal vendetta to abuse Etc.--
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of question that helps. You might find the guidance in the introduction
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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as well. Also uploaded videos on YouTube of episodes.--
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helpful (including the text in the "collapse box").
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