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Who are you responding to? And for the ESPN, Washington Post, and Soccer
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We can agree to disagree on this subject. Your quote about the significant coverage aspect is correct, but the same area also states "Significant coverage addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a
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Resubmitting this article for deletion discussion. My first suggestion that this league was a youth league was proven wrong, fair enough, it's an academy league. But I honestly do not believe that a 4th tier, amateur-level US soccer/football academy league meets
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I'm perfectly willing to believe that this academy might not be notable, but the fact that the nominator refers to it repeatedly as a league, when it is clearly not a league, doesn't inspire confidence in the nomination statement.
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