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Plenty of third party sources. There is no reason to delete an artist with this amount of coverage. Many of the reasons the editor wanting to delete the article gives are intentionally misleading. I'm sorry, but the "paragraph about a song by the artist one can download on
Jamendo.com" states "As
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Someone on the website headfullofnoise.com appears to have written a review of an album by the subject. That someone is named "Zombiegoats". That some anonymous blogger has an opinion about this album is interesting but it doesn't establish notability and its not a reliable secondary
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Beverte is the only original musician of Dethcentrik, a band from Colorado, and his main project. Død has released one solo album, and is often himself synonymous with Dethcentrik, and he also took part in the underground supergroup Divine Punishment.
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Reported by: Jason Fisher" and if you read info about the site you will see he is the owner of the site. And I'm sorry but a user-submitted content label that suddenly disappears? I didn't see it. The only things found written by the source itself do satisfy
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and therefore prohibited. The infobox used to list the "official website" for this artist but following the link reveals it to be link spam for a merchandise sales page with no content related to the subject. I have since
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him are by staff. You also so ignorantly claim: "according to the article that musician hasn't released an album." The discography lists releases of a single and an album. And that itself is verifiable on many sites:
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Mega metal magazine may or may not have ever mentioned the subject, and mega metal magazine may or may not be a real publication. ref does not provide a link but you should check out their
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