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nothing evident in the way of high-profile biography, etc. The page as written seems promotional and the edit history shows evidence that "ownership" is being exerted by the piece's creator, who seems to be more or less a Single
Purpose Account. All this is troubling. I will note that there would seem to be some likelihood that "Dmitry Borshch" is a pseudonym, which might open up possible sourcing avenues, but this is merely speculative.
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source simply publishes images and self submitted works). The list of works is cited to
Commons images uploaded by the artist himself. The external links are to sales, auction, listing or occasional blog sites. All in all, the article seems to be entirely self-promotional, does not make any claims to
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I would agree that as a source to verify basic info, it's useful and reliable. For establishing notability on the other hand, it is less useful. As the sole reliable source offered, it is not useful at all. But I would trust it if I was trying to determine a date of birth or details about a specific
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Every attempt to improve this article, or flag it for clean-up, has been reverted by the author. Article is about a young-ish contemporary artist therefore I would expect to find some evidence of in-depth coverage in online sources, unfortunately I can't. The further reading does not make it clear
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per nom. I'm seeing nothing substantial from independently published sources in a check of Дмитрий Борщ and still less searching Дмитрий Геннадиевич Борщ. A cursory search of the Latin spelling generates the usual web footprint of commerce-related hits that most any working artist generates with
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Borshch donated his images to Wikimedia Commons (a free image repository) completely negates Carrite's statement that the article is commerce-related and promotional. Most living artists retain full copyright of their images in order to profit from them commercially.
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Borshch's biography in Who's Who in American Art, and yet they rush to delete.
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ARTstor blog reaches more than 75 000 art historians, teachers, curators, students. Kulturologia.ru may be the best art blog in all of Russia. “Non-notable blogs”, Sergecross?
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