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The references currently in the article are rubbish (his amazon.com reviewers profile (!), an autobiography at jGuru.com, a masters thesis that doesn't mention him, and an interview in a niche magazine about development of one game) and none offer significant coverage of the topic, so he clearly
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There are five books and four notable video games where he played a significant role, so he is somewhat significant. I don't at all see "obvious" notability, like Lulu thinks, lots of people write books, lots of people have significant roles in video games.
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lacks non-trivial coverage from reliable third party publications. If you actually drill down on some of the cites provided you will find passing mention or no mention of this person within.
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Based on that, I would favor deletion, and seeing that there is no significant coverage of the topic at all and we'd be relying only on the indicators from
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If he is the lead developed for the game, he is notable, and I think the references are good enough to show it.
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would be notable, which I hadn't considered thus far. :)
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