296:: "The outgoing White House also became concerned about the Trump teamâs handling of classified information. After learning that highly sensitive documents from a secure room at the transitionâs Washington headquarters were being copied and removed from the facility, Obamaâs national security team decided to only allow the transition officials to view some information at the White House, including documents on the governmentâs contingency plans for crises."
1461:. I say we keep it for now because it's very well covered. But there's a good chance the coverage will move on to other things, depending on the outcome of the investigation into Russian interference in the election. So if there are still stories being written about this in 6 months, that'd be an obvious keep. But if not, then we need to return to this discussion and determine whether this is something worth preserving.
1771:; This is not someone farting in the forest, or even a congressman falling off a ladder and breaking his arm. This appears to be a security breach of extraordinary and historic proportions, and stands to cause significant repercussions in the intelligence operations of at least one country, and consternations among many world leaders regarding how to communicate with, and what not to share with, this POTUS. â
927:- It is presidential prerogative to disclose intelligence to whomever. The real on-going issue is the Trump/Russia connection. If we look at this incident retrospectively in another year - there is no way this single incident will stand alone - and not be folded into whatever entry(ies) cover the "Trump XXX Russia" entry(ies).
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322:: "Now, Trump is drawing fire from Democrats for his own seemingly loose attitude toward information security. He has continued to use an insecure cellphone, according to the New York Times. He may have left a key to classified information on his desk while visitors were in the Oval Office...."
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