666:. 90% sure that's it as it as its the largest settlement in the area and an educated guess would say it is fairly near the lake of the same name Dongqia Cuo. Its between northeast of the lake and southwest of where geonames says it is to the southwest of Qiangma. Check it out on google earth. A trial and error as I found numerous villages in the area but based on the lake name and the geonames and it being the largest and practically only settlement between the lake and Qiangma I'd hazard a guess that that's it.
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Qiangma being north of it. c] A give away is the fact that there is a lake called Dongqia Cuo and you'd naturally assume a village to not be too far away. Between the lake and where geonames says it is and its the nearest settlement of significance to the lake so its a good guess I think. There are other villages to the northeast if you follow the path and it would be nice to be 100% certain but at least it doesn't point to nothing as it did before!♦
333:- Non-English names that do not have native Latin characters can be very difficult to identify. "Dongqiao" could be one of multiple translated spellings from either Chinese or even a Tibetan language. So far I can't find anything on Dongqiao, but that's not necessarily conclusive evidence that the place doesn't exist. If someone can find this place, perhaps with a different spelling, then it can be re-created. --
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Tibetan produce! The population is too high for a Tibetan village, but I couldn't confirm the province, Funan I'd imagine, I think there appears to be a settlement there of the same name. Also I don't like the rough database coordinates for villages I always like to match it up with a settlement you can view on satellite, the exact location will need chasing.♦
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This is not very clear. Judging from those references, it is uncertain whether
Dongqiao is a village or town, or something else. The first reference (cjxb.ac.cn) refers to the "Dongqiao area" and "Dongqiao region". The second reference (mindat.org) refers to the "Dongqiao Ophiolite" and the "Dongqiao
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Both village and geological regions are notable and have coverage in multiple reliable sources. Why is it always left to me to expand, doesn't anybody else have access to google books? I strongly suspect the population and agric data is for another village, probably southeastern China, doesn't sound
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Qiangma is according to google map calculations. b] Geonames indicates thst its south of Qiangma and this is backed by a book source which mentions the
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Dongqiacuo (Dongqia Lake) as cuo means lake to the southwest of the coordinates. I can't locate a settlement though.♦
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