419:. Personal independent testimonial and argumentation to keep the article on DataFlex. Since the end of the 80's, I am, as an independent software developer in Belgium, using the DataFlex suites as my primary software development environment. I have built unix, CM, windows, ajax, web3 and mobile applications with it. Nowadays the ability to fast develop web3, mobile and touch apps together with soap, json etc are embedded in the same studio. This makes the environment very modern, following todays trends and technologies. Through multiple middle layer drivers, it can be connected natively to most commercial DB environments. Dataflex applications are being used by small companies up to multinationals. The software that we have developed are used by users, seating in approx. 15 different countries, and that's just for me. My personal reference solution connects to a DB of + 250GB. Our longest ongoing project with continuous added functionality started in 1995 and has been evolving week after week since then. From these environments, we are exchanging information with the nr 1 ERP system, other ERP systems, automation lines, industrial PDA's, labo integration, specific test equipment, or better said, what people currently call IoT. During my career, I have given multiple courses, lectures and demonstrations.
517:. Among our customers are large insurance companies, companies dealing with government data, as well as small industrial companies. Some have '90's style application wanting/needing to go to Mobile/Touch (while maintaining their investment in DataFlex code), others are on the Windows platform (formerly called Visual DataFlex). Removing the DataFlex and Visual DataFlex pages is a bad idea. However the DataFlex community could do a better job in improving the information on these pages. So I guess thanks for pointing out that this should be a priority, the potential deletion certainly woke us up..
492:. I have been working with DataFlex since 2001. I work for a UK based company that provides software for the not-for-profit sector, and the Institute of Fundraising has twice awarded us the best CRM database supplier in the last 4 years, so DataFlex is hugely important to us. We have approximately 200 clients spread through the whole of the UK who benefit greatly from our ability to deliver solutions on a rapid timescale thanks to the DataFlex programming language. Our product is written for Windows but we have just started to use the language to create mobile applications and solutions.
319:. While you might not have found anything about the programming language, it is still used by thousands of developers on a day by day bases. If you think my edits where too commercial then that is your opinion. I just added what I believed was correct and improved the page. Personally I frown on that removal, but what can I do but accept your choice? FWIW I happen to program in DataFlex and run the largest open source website for that language (
300:. Dataflex was big in its day; but its day was long ago. There'll be loads of RS in computer magazines of the 1980s & early 1990s. Just because you can't find RS with an internet search does not mean they do not exist. It really isn't helpful to want to delete history like this. A point of an encyclopedia is to be able to find information on obscure subject matter. Bottom line: this is a very disappointing AfD. --
509:. As a regular contributor to the Wikimedia Foundation, I'm very disappointed in this apparent aggressive removal strategy. I understand that keeping the information current and correct is essential, but as DataFlex is used in Many Many large and small organisations I don not understand why its removal. Personally I have been on the Committee of the Independent DataFlex Developers And Users Group
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