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365:—This nomination includes remarks directly addressed to the subject's notability ("Appearing on 22 episodes of a game show and setting a record in a high school quiz bowl are not criteria that proves notability. Article also contains WP:OR about records he "is believed" to hold, such as "the longest ever 'real-time' champion since he taped his first show on December 14, 2004 and his last regular play show on July 9, 2005" Bulk of statistics in article are also unreferenced. Article contains anectodal mention of a hike the subject made across the US for charity, which again does not prove notability.") The quotations from earlier AFDs were included because the similar rational and related discussion for their deletion apply to my nomination of this article for deletion. The similar structure of this AFD to other recent AFDs also applies because of the similar notability claims of those articles and the result of the earlier bundled AFD in which they were all included. 318:
about records he "is believed" to hold, such as "the longest ever 'real-time' champion since he taped his first show on December 14, 2004 and his last regular play show on July 9, 2005" Bulk of statistics in article are also unreferenced. Article contains anectodal mention of a hike the subject made
505:. No reason for each person to have his or her own article, based on my brief review of the evidence, but these appear to have non-trivial coverage in multiple reliable sources. Thus, if merged into a list, there's a clear potential for an FLC to come out of this. 84: 79: 74: 278: 224: 184: 667:. Why? Because it was the highest, the top achievement of its kind. Shortly after Kobe Bryant scored 81 points, an article titled "Kobe Bryant's 81-point game" was created but was soundly !voted for either delete or redirect ( 69: 273: 219: 668: 178: 144: 252: 112: 107: 116: 139: 604:
Creating an article entitled "David Madden's Jeopardy! appearance" doesn't solve the problem, because the event itself has not received on-going coverage. The last sentence in
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and its notability rather than a generalized cut-and-paste nomination which may falsely attribute quotations of anonymous other editors, out of context, to this nomination.
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or something similar, where all those BLP1E contestants for which each event isn't quite notable on its own can be collectively merged, as JClemens points out.--
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Appearing on 22 episodes of a game show and setting a record in a high school quiz bowl are not criteria that proves notability. Article also contains
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Although the person received media coverage at the time of their appearance on a game show, there is no notability beyond the single event.
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the second-highest winning contestant is sufficiently notable to deserve some kind of entry at least on the list of contestants list.
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or individual should be indicated by how persistent the coverage is in reliable sources." (Emphasis mine.) --
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Nomination follows reasons listed in other similar deletion discussions, including the following:
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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The nominator should withdraw the above nomination and re-nominate with remarks addressed to
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is factor, as there has been little/no coverage since the initial appearance on a game show.
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Article was nominated individually after initially being included in a bundeled AFD.
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to allow for the inclusion of notable contestants who didn't win their games.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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multiple contestants who have no other coverage into a list article, such as
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across the US for charity, which again does not prove notability.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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David's charity hike received persistent reliable coverage.
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to turn it into an article about the event, which is how
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, --
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