351:- you can't just lump this guy into the same category as any other random candidate for the other parliamentary parties (because yes I agree, most of them are not yet worthy of a wikipedia article according the current widespread interpretation of "notability"). A somewhat vaguely closer comparison would be with a candidate who gets selected for a safe seat for that party, and thus is most likely going to become an MP (unlike most candidates who stand). However even that comparison I'd feel is still many orders of magnitude off from correct, as he is the number one key candidate for a party that apparently they're resting all their hopes on (or so it seems from the media reports), and in an electorate that is already getting a huge amount of media attention on because it is an electorate that is going to (probably?) determine the next PM of NZ and this person is the number one ranking candidate in the race by a long way.
433:"Maybe" a standalone article if he wins the electorate?? :-/ I'm astonished anybody could view it like that, as without a doubt if he wins the election he is worthy of a standalone article. Not ifs, maybes, or buts about it. I think maybe you're forgetting the significance of his electorate and this election.
554:
Hello, I'm the user who originally tried to create this article, and my original version had references, but I'd like to thank the
Knowledge (XXG) community for then making this page and adding in so many many more references!,Unlike other candidates in New Zealand elections the Epsom Candidate has
534:
Candidate for a seat that is likely to be very high profile, and already has a lot of references. Lot of people will be searching for information about candidate from this electorate, and that's only likely to increase even more as the election gets closer. Could even decided the election result.
238:. There is already a heap of coverage of him which is not surprising at all, as he is the #1 candidate for a seat which is once again a key battleground electorate during the election this year. I'm in a way sort of kinda the "creator" of this article, After I saw the
161:
246:. So I made it and added a bunch more references, as there is lots of coverage of the Epsom selection in news articles, opinion columns, and tv coverage. This gives a quick overview of the coverage prior to his selection:
497:
Considering the amount of media attention on ACT in the past month, I thought I would be !voting keep, but after a web search there isn't much out there about
Seymour in the way of third party, reliable sources.
415:
I don't think he is notable by himself at this stage. There is merit merging this with the Act Party article. Maybe a stand alone article if he wins the electorate after the election, but not before.
384:
The blogs are themselves citing news articles, though I can include those too directly in the article. And did you go through all the references already there? Such as say these for instance:
155:
266:
217:
114:
310:- yes, and that is unsurprising. The same will be true about the vast majority of candidates of the parties already in Parliament, but that doesn't make them notable.
121:
87:
82:
91:
243:
74:
176:
143:
17:
449:- if he were to be returned as an MP, he would meet notability requirements, as MPs are inherently notable. No question about that.
315:
368:
Knowledge (XXG) should cite third party, reliable sources (i.e. not ACT website or right-wing blogs like Whale Oil and
Kiwiblog).
323:
137:
78:
602:
583:
564:
544:
524:
507:
483:
462:
437:
424:
395:
377:
355:
339:
298:
278:
257:
228:
209:
133:
56:
319:
621:
40:
183:
70:
62:
574:
Substantial references, and likely to be a high profile candidate, pivotal to the makeup of NZ's next parliament
560:
250:
To give a specific example from one of the many news articles, here is one to read which goes into who he is:
389:
385:
251:
247:
149:
617:
479:
420:
36:
598:
579:
556:
540:
456:
333:
203:
169:
594:
294:
311:
520:
274:
224:
29:
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
616:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
193:
35:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
503:
475:
416:
373:
239:
575:
536:
451:
328:
198:
53:
365:
290:
516:
270:
555:
already attracted a large ammount of attention that is why i started this article
108:
364:"There seems to be plenty of refs" doesn't asses the quality of the sources. per
499:
434:
392:
369:
352:
254:
390:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11195793
386:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11194914
252:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11195793
248:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11194914
593:
There are plenty of references, and this is a very significant election.
244:
Knowledge (XXG) talk:Articles for creation/David
Seymour (Politician)
610:
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
326:." This person is a long way off meeting those requirements.
314:
is defined as having "been the subject of multiple published
515:
Has significant coverage from multiple reliable sources.
104:
100:
96:
168:
470:
to create some excitement with the loose use of the
474:- you are both right he would get his own article.
182:
43:). No further edits should be made to this page.
624:). No further edits should be made to this page.
322:, intellectually independent of each other, and
267:list of Politicians-related deletion discussions
218:list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions
289:. There seems to be plenty of refs about him.
8:
265:Note: This debate has been included in the
216:Note: This debate has been included in the
264:
215:
18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
7:
24:
1:
312:Basic notability for people
242:request from a new user at
220:. 00:22, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
641:
603:10:54, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
584:08:52, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
565:06:34, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
545:06:27, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
324:independent of the subject
71:David Seymour (politician)
63:David Seymour (politician)
57:13:45, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
525:15:55, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
508:04:35, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
484:21:39, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
463:06:44, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
438:05:17, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
425:04:22, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
396:05:14, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
378:04:35, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
356:10:46, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
340:06:51, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
299:03:49, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
279:01:20, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
258:00:27, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
229:00:22, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
210:23:45, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
613:Please do not modify it.
32:Please do not modify it.
48:The result was
316:secondary sources
281:
221:
632:
615:
459:
454:
336:
331:
227:
206:
201:
187:
186:
172:
124:
112:
94:
34:
640:
639:
635:
634:
633:
631:
630:
629:
628:
622:deletion review
611:
557:Antthecomjunkie
457:
452:
334:
329:
223:
204:
199:
129:
120:
85:
69:
66:
41:deletion review
30:
22:
21:
20:
12:
11:
5:
638:
636:
627:
626:
606:
605:
587:
586:
568:
567:
548:
547:
528:
527:
510:
491:
490:
489:
488:
487:
486:
465:
441:
440:
428:
427:
409:
408:
407:
406:
405:
404:
403:
402:
401:
400:
399:
398:
359:
358:
343:
342:
302:
301:
283:
282:
261:
260:
232:
231:
192:Does not meet
190:
189:
126:
65:
60:
46:
45:
25:
23:
15:
14:
13:
10:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
637:
625:
623:
619:
614:
608:
607:
604:
600:
596:
592:
589:
588:
585:
581:
577:
573:
570:
569:
566:
562:
558:
553:
550:
549:
546:
542:
538:
533:
530:
529:
526:
522:
518:
514:
511:
509:
505:
501:
496:
493:
492:
485:
481:
477:
473:
469:
466:
464:
461:
460:
455:
448:
445:
444:
443:
442:
439:
436:
432:
431:
430:
429:
426:
422:
418:
414:
411:
410:
397:
394:
391:
387:
383:
382:
381:
380:
379:
375:
371:
367:
363:
362:
361:
360:
357:
354:
350:
347:
346:
345:
344:
341:
338:
337:
332:
325:
321:
317:
313:
309:
306:
305:
304:
303:
300:
296:
292:
288:
285:
284:
280:
276:
272:
268:
263:
262:
259:
256:
253:
249:
245:
241:
237:
234:
233:
230:
226:
219:
214:
213:
212:
211:
208:
207:
202:
195:
185:
181:
178:
175:
171:
167:
163:
160:
157:
154:
151:
148:
145:
142:
139:
135:
132:
131:Find sources:
127:
123:
119:
116:
110:
106:
102:
98:
93:
89:
84:
80:
76:
72:
68:
67:
64:
61:
59:
58:
55:
51:
44:
42:
38:
33:
27:
26:
19:
612:
609:
590:
571:
551:
531:
512:
494:
471:
467:
450:
446:
412:
348:
327:
307:
286:
235:
197:
191:
179:
173:
165:
158:
152:
146:
140:
130:
117:
49:
47:
31:
28:
476:NealeFamily
417:NealeFamily
156:free images
576:Hydroksyde
318:which are
618:talk page
537:Peteremcc
271:• Gene93k
54:Lankiveil
37:talk page
620:or in a
320:reliable
291:Ollieinc
115:View log
39:or in a
595:Jords12
517:Orser67
453:Schwede
447:Comment
349:Comment
330:Schwede
308:Comment
225:gadfium
200:Schwede
194:WP:NPOL
162:WP refs
150:scholar
88:protect
83:history
500:Adabow
495:Delete
435:Mathmo
393:Mathmo
388:&
370:Adabow
353:Mathmo
255:Mathmo
240:WP:AfC
134:Google
92:delete
472:maybe
468:Sorry
413:Merge
177:JSTOR
138:books
122:Stats
109:views
101:watch
97:links
16:<
599:talk
591:Keep
580:talk
572:Keep
561:talk
552:Keep
541:talk
532:Keep
521:talk
513:Keep
504:talk
480:talk
421:talk
374:talk
366:WP:V
295:talk
287:Keep
275:talk
236:Keep
170:FENS
144:news
105:logs
79:talk
75:edit
50:keep
184:TWL
113:– (
601:)
582:)
563:)
543:)
523:)
506:)
482:)
458:66
423:)
376:)
335:66
297:)
277:)
269:.
205:66
196:.
164:)
107:|
103:|
99:|
95:|
90:|
86:|
81:|
77:|
52:.
597:(
578:(
559:(
539:(
519:(
502:(
478:(
419:(
372:(
293:(
273:(
222:-
188:)
180:·
174:·
166:·
159:·
153:·
147:·
141:·
136:(
128:(
125:)
118:·
111:)
73:(
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.