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403:. The article is indeed a stub, as it would be easy for an editor to expand it. I also don't think it meets the BLP1E standard, as some of these citations are to events years later. And arguably, Bruce Lucero, M.D., New Woman all Woman Health Care, Plaintiffs-Appellees-Cross-Appellants, v. David Trosch, Father, Defendant, Minzor Chadwick, David Lackey, Kathleen Mcconnell, John Edwin Williams, Eleanor Stisher, Defendants-Appellants-Cross-Appellees, Chris Harding, Deputy United States Marshal, Movant., 121 F.3d 591 (11th Cir. 1997) (aka Lucero vs. Trosh) may be a notable law case, as there is at least some coverage of it in secondary sources and it has been cited as precedent in other cases of the same circuit. 253:
been updated since '03). An editor claiming to be Trosch has edited this page, by this point the warnings at the top of the page are longer than the article itself. Maybe this guy is notable enough to deserve an article but at present, there certainly are not citations to establish this and the article is hopelessly flawed.
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If BLP1E is the only concern, then a deletion nomination is not appropriate. Because the proper solution for a BLP1E issue is to either A) merge the content into an existing article on the event or B) move the article to a title about the event and then rework it to be about the event. In neither
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The gent in question undoubtedly made uncouth statements regarding the death of abortionists but those were many years ago and their impact is questionable. The article is just about unsourced, much of it is patched together from what is purportedly Trosch's website (which does not appear to have
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Trosch was notorious in the early-mid nineties for advocating the murder of abortion providers as 'justifiable homicide'. This came to light when he tried to post an advert in a newspaper with a cartoon that proposed this viewpoint. He also called for the killing of a specific abortion provider on
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I was never in any doubt as to the abundance of sources; it's not hard to tap his name into Google News! My reasoning for worrying about BLP1E was that his entire notability seemed based on the fall-out from that original advert placement, rather than the article being about him as a person. If
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Despite all the tags and notices and apparently complaints from the subject and his advocates, I'd say from my reading of the sources - which I was too lazy to paste in but you can easily find on Google News - that this bio is pretty accurate, but I wonder whether it falls foul of
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revisiting the controversy just 2 months ago. As such, I don't really see how this would fall under 1E. All the article really needs is some precise sourcing & watchful eyes. As such, I've added it to my watchlist and will try to fix the sourcing within the next couple
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Meh, whatever. Plenty of articles get deleted due to BLP1E concerns. The article was heavily disputed, covered in tags, and I converted a Prod into AfD as I wanted a proper discussion on deletion. No need to Wikilawyer.
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in 1994 describing him as the most vocal proponent of the view that since abortion is murder, stopping abortionists by whatever means necessary, up to and including killing them, is morally obligatory on
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editors believe that coverage of his Geraldo interview and the Lucero court case side-step BLP1E, then it might be OK to keep.
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That search by ThaddeusB can be refined to just fully free sources, which gives ample evidence of notability, including
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case should the article that had a BLP1E issue be deleted. If you need input on whether this should be done, the
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The New York Times had reason to reference his views on religiously motivated violence in 1998
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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This was prodded as "self-explanatory". I deprodded so we could discuss it at AfD instead.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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