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226:. I respectfully disagree with Recury's assessment that the topic is well covered in the main article. Most of this article is encyclopedic IMHO. I would not call the disagreements minor, especially to Simpson Race Products. There was very much controversy over many months in my opinion (contrary to Dhartung's opinion). Keeping it in its own article serves to keep those ugly trivia sections out of Earnhardt's main article. Maybe it will help lessen the vandalism of that page too. This article can be refered to by the 383:
forking away from his death? Is it not enough that lots of focus is already put on his death in his own article? Knowledge is not Access Hollywood or Crime Library or American Justice, we don't need minutely, morbidly detailed accounts like this just because some people find it
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article after seeing this, and now I think it's got roughly enough there. Editors should consider merging any points that would pass the hundred-year test, not just Wikinews-type content, to the parent article. I've mentioned this AfD on the WikiProject NASCAR talk page.
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and covers both articles completely. Kudos to Agnes for such an excellent article! The old articles are no longer needed. I have left a message for Recury because I'm puzzled why he would stop this nomination when the deletion appears imminent now.
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as a reasonable compromise. My primary concern is to not see Earnhardt main article dominated by the controversies. There is enough to encyclopedic material about the events after his death to warrant its own article in my opinion.
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and include details of both the controversy but also the constructive changes that Nascar did in the aftermath. IF written to their full potential such details would be overbearing in the main Earnhardt article.
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with relevant text from those three articles. I did a little content editing to try and address the OR and POV concerns. I guess the best route now would be to
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per Agne, inclusive of the autopsy photos article and detailed information on the crash etc. rather than the overused label "controversy". --
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Since we essentially have three articles involved (This, the main Dale Earnhardt, and the autopsy photos), I was
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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articles. This article needs to have references added if it survives AfD, and I recently added some at
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Changed vote after Agne27's merge of content. Endorse history merge of the two AfD'd articles to
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was requested, but I feel that adding this much about this topic would unbalance that article.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Goes into too much detail on a subject not deserving of its own article. A merge back into
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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for the histories since the content work has already been done.
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per BrotherFlounder. I would recommend changing the title to
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already addresses the topic and, I would say, sufficiently.
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Thanks, I probably should have mentioned it there myself.
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Dale Earnhardt: Controversy over the cause(s) of his death
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Dale Earnhardt: Controversy over the cause(s) of his death
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but I think a more appropriate splinter article would be
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The new article looks much better, nomination withdrawn.
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Controversy over the cause(s) of Dale Earnhardt's death
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
Death of Dale Earnhardt
WP:DPR
Serpent's Choice
07:13, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Dale Earnhardt: Controversy over the cause(s) of his death
Dale Earnhardt: Controversy over the cause(s) of his death
edit
talk
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View log
Dale Earnhardt
Dale Earnhardt
Recury
Recury
14:05, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Dale Earnhardt
Barno
17:56, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Recury
18:15, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Death of Dale Earnhardt
Barno

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