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Uticans, we wouldn't allow that.) If there's more to the Dalmation ethnicity than that, let the article author prove it with refs. Until then, delete the article with no prejudice against re-creation if proper refs are provided. (The bulk of the article has nothing to do with with ethnicity, it is about history, and could be merged into
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Dalmation (as an ethnicity) is not generally accepted as a valid
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