442:: 'Several of the models who have appeared in MILF Hunter have become famous as "MILF pornstars". One notable example is Vicky Vette... Other recognizable porn actresses featured on the site are... Danielle Derek' I shouldn't have let myself get sucked into looking at this page again. I don't care about the subject and apparently no one involved in editing the porn articles else does either. So there's your opportunity: Censor Knowledge (XXG) of articles on minor celebrities who don't have a currently actively-editing fan base. Anyone who wants sourced, unbiased information on this subject will have to content themselves with an article on some one-horse town in Kent. To hell with it-- censor away.
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my realm of interest, I don't plan to spend any more time researching her. My search on the subject was enough to prove to me that she's a celebrity, this is not a vanity page. Your time spent on the subject appears to be, as usual, to slap an AfD tag on the page, and put the burden of proof on those who are against censoring
Knowledge (XXG). An editor who actually cared about these subjects would put "unsourced" tags on the page, or, heaven forbid, actually try to source and
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Let me see if I'm getting this straight... Sources found through a Google search are now invalid?... Interesting... Do we next invalidate any information found in a book if an index was used in locating that information? (As long as that information is on a subject of which we disapprove, of course.)
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relevant. My search on the subject brought up many pages showing that she has a high profile and large following in the MILF genre. Her films are only one aspect of her output in that genre. She also has an online diary with many citations from other pages, photos, etc. Since the subject is outside
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Two of the Delete votes were based on the supposition that a Google-hit count was used to determine notability. Nowhere above did anyone vote to keep based on number Google hits. Doing so would be counter to
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