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175:"). Not enough reliable, third-party sources to verify the information. If the main website used as a reference is owned by the author, then the source is not valid, as it is not third-party. The author should be advised that Knowledge is not the place to publish his personal findings unless they receive independent coverage. -- 491:
that I agree his offer, even if there is no guarantee or promise that the future article will be validated by English Knowledge. Up to your convenience, I am ready to be helped to work either on the above mentioned article in order to improve it, either on a new one. On the while, this article can be
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3) Third party: the originator (J. Bucki) is a party; English WP is a party, Robertatum is a party and sources mentioned are independant and are parties as well. So there is a third party. The author of the article is not the owner of the site where it is reproduced and where you can read it is under
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3/ See External link that shows that the method BADSc is recognised and is belonging to the public domain. Therefore Sources are showing that BADSc method is recognised for more than ten years by french management school HEC (N°1 in France), scientific school as CNAM and by CNRS, which is a branch of
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5) References and sources langage: "English-langages sources should be used in preference to foreign langages sources" don't mean that only english sources are available. French-langage sources are available too as french langage is recognised as an international langage as well as
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Not really. I have created several stubs with more sourcing than that. Also, it's not actually a stub; it has enough sentences to be considered a Start-class article. Therefore, it is quite badly sourced for a Start-class article.
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Thank you. Well, based on that, it's certainly valid enough for a stub-length article, if nothing else. So, discounting that discounting non-English sources is nothing more than a suggestion, I say... •
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the current article. I think that an article on this topic is possible, but this article currently needs too much work to fix. I have emailed Robertatum to offer to mentor him for a few weeks.
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2/ The main website used as a reference is not owned by the originator of the method (Janusz Bucki) but by IEGD Institute. On request I can send to you the permission of the author.
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What we're discussing here is not the article's length, but it's notability. Your comment has nothing to do with the discussion and the concerns raised by the nom and myself. --
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4) Writer of the different sources : Of course, there is the originator of the approach but there are several writers: Sylvain Roth (DGA)and Y Pesqueux (HEC) for instance...
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this was nominated a few days ago but the discovery of a copyvio truncated that debate. The copyvio has now been resolved (the source page is now licensed under GFDL - see
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You made the demonstration that Knowledge is a "complex system" and we are "autonomous agents working together by different ways towards commmun objectives".
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reliable sources. Links to sources authored by the originators of the theory are not independent, and non-English sources do not belong in English wiki.
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GFDL licence. The author is neither the owner of the site, neither a member (list mentioned at the bottom of the first page)
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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In the current highly complex, changing, and exacting environment, we need more efficient approaches...
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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2) Copyright status: article under GFDL licence. On request, other prooves can be shown.
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I meant that it seems notable enough for a stub-length article, with that sourcing. •
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deleted or kept. Up to you according your interpretation of Knowledge regulations.
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CNAM, is promoting this approach. ISBN and ISSN numbers are also mentioned.
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6) Notability: sources show that the specific approach is published by
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
Wknight94
talk
11:05, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Decisional analysis of complex systems
Articles for deletion/Decisional analysis of complex systems
Articles for deletion/Decisional analysis of complex systems (2nd nomination)
Decisional analysis of complex systems
edit
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history
protect
delete
links
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View log
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WP:BOLLOCKS
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decision analysis
Carlossuarez46
23:58, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
Boricu
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ddie
00:09, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
decisional analysis of complex systems

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