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guys rely too much on the internet. Not all sources are internet. Is there a way for me to take a photo of my medal, then scan it on and imageshack it to be viewed. Note: i am being serious there, are there other ways of providing sources other than pre-made url links. i will take the photo if it means you'll allow the deportivo wiki in.
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Insports Northcote - and Wont make a wiki for that. Please let this stay, it does no harm, really. It is a serious and yes, notable thing. Im not sure where you guys are from but if you were from Melbourne you would be aware - although, if you were a football fan (as that also applies to any league in the world)
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2.) Ok, can we please reach an agreement, I havn't been lieing about anything here at all. The only semi-lie ive/weve told is the on eregarding estadio
Northcetti. The place is actually (as im sure you all know) "Insportz Northcote" and we just made up the northcetti for fun. ill remove that now, and
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computer all day. Delete it if you want, you guys are morons, who sit on a computer all day, trying to improve shit wiki. Wiki is a joke, Do you guys know how many wiki play ons there are, you are jokes. go back to wikiland, and stop trying to improve wiki, its a laughing stock - all over the world.
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You see, this is my problem, as you can probably guess i've exumed all internet resources. When i say big i dont mean everyone in the state knows, but to the football fraternity it is known. Local community newspapers do not publish their articles on the net. which leads me to my second point - you
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How about this, everyone can go and get effed. This is fukn wiki for gods sakes. You guys sit on this computer all day long, go to hell. Wiki is shit, i cant even site it in a bibliography at school it is seen that much as a joke. You guys are no better than a bunch of forum mods, who sit on their
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A topic is notable if it has been the subject of secondary sources. Such sources must be reliable, independent of the subject and independent of each other. The depth of coverage of the subject by the source must be considered. If the depth of coverage is not substantial, then multiple independent
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Deportivo page (there was a third, but it was a link to the article on the stadium which is bundled with this one for AfD purposes) consist of a series of forum posts and a directory entry proving that the club exists. We can thus be reasonably sure that
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per above. Creator's repeated and exhaustive arguments boil down to nothing much; no matter how important he claims this team is, if he can't provide any sources at all (never mind verifiable or credible ones), then we're talking, as others have said, of a pickup duffers' league at best. Even
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Not notable. It's one team of many, from one location of many, from one city of many. One of the referenced websites lists nearly 20 sports centers in the
Melbourne area, and this appears to be a team from a league at only one of those locations.
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Guys, please let this stay. I've added a real valuable source at the end of ext.source section. This is a real team and league, forget the bit about "bunch of mates" that was when we were wiki virgins. Please allow it, really means a lot.
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which to me suggests that this club is clearly non-notable as per a million other AFDs on amateur indoor "hobbyist" teams. Note also zero Ghits for "northcote league" and "northcote super league". Therefore I now !vote
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1.) regarding the picture, it is copyrighted for 7 years, under the
Australian copyright act that any picture produced in Australia is of automatic copyright for 7 years, so please dont insult me on that.
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Ok, look, i understand what all of you guys are saying. And yes, i understand that you guys now know the team and league exists. This really means a lot to a lot of people. You have no idea.
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