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295:. The main problem with this article is the level: it uses the difference quotient definition to compute derivatives. There is no good reason to do this for any of the functions given; indeed, the only time anyone actually uses the definition to compute such derivatives during the brief time in a calculus course between the introduction of the derivative, and the introduction of the power rule. Therefore this page is 134:, which I think is also an important article). The tone of the article is also quite encyclopedic, and the article really helps to explain how to find a derivative; I understand that WP:NOT includes "how-tos," but this is a math function- it would be like the article for multiplication not explaining how to find a product. -- 317:
As an analyst, I have to disagree that "the only time anyone actually uses the definition to compute such derivatives during the brief time in a calculus course between the introduction of the derivative, and the introduction of the power rule," but I agree that only a few of these should be kept and
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This article is definitely not an indiscriminate collection of information, nor is it a tutorial or instruction manual. Just like dictionaries have pictures of some words to (literally and figuratively) illustrate what they are, encyclopedias contain examples for reference. In particular, derivatives
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while Knowledge (XXG) has descriptions of people, places, and things, Knowledge (XXG) articles should not include instruction - advice ( legal, medical, or otherwise), suggestions, or contain "how-to"s. This includes tutorials, walk-throughs, instruction manuals, video game guides, and
48:. Blurrrgh. Nothing's going to be solved here - there needs to be some kind of informed and agreed consensus by the maths guys as to what is and is not suitable, which we could then apply. If someone wants to prune it down and merge this into 547:. This is remniscent of the debate over whether semi-trivial proofs of theorems are suitable for WP or not. Perhaps this shouldbe considered to be in the same class? Might be worth setting a policy for. The WP "proofs" category is 299:
textbook material and should go. The tone of the article reinforces my opinion of this. It would not be enough to replace the calculations with more reasonable methods, since then it would just be lost property of the
304:. I don't think any of the examples is very valuable, nor do I think including one in the main article (note that there is already an example there) really adds anything besides how-to-ness. 380:). This is a selection of proofs that the derivatives in the table are correct; not a tutorial, for which the formulae in the table are more useful. 461: 17: 466: 514:
per GWO. (Possibly rename to "Individual Episodes of The Derivatives", which are filmed weekly at a math class near you...)
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is the only correct format for article titles, when in most cases it's awkward and a much better title would be
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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to 2 or 3 short examples, basically to illustrate the definition of derivative, then make this a section of
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are a very significant topic, and I beleive this page began as a split from the main page (just as there is
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to wikibooks (I think calculus examples are valuable, but we're not a textbook; they are). Perhaps
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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To which I think it is fair to call this article a tutorial on how to find derivatives.
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AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
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I had to mull over this one for a few minutes. If we can't have an article called
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article. Unlike some other subjects, one need examples to understand math. --
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an indiscriminate collection of information. In particular number 8 titled
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if they don't need this over there. This is a good example of what WP is
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Good points. I've noticed this kind of disease that makes people think
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or some such. No, if you're looking for examples of derivatives, see
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A few examples in the main article are fine, but this is ridiculous. —
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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of the example calculations should be merged into the main
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Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks,
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stay ... sheesh, do we want to look like cretins? --
39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 573:). No further edits should be made to this page. 52:, I don't think there would be many tears shed. 528:maybe a bit shortened. Current name is fine. 8: 497:. Why is this even a discussion? Too many 102:which specifically states the following: 181:and groups). This article should be 161:does that mean we also shouldn't have 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 318:merged into the main article.  ;) 364:into main article, then redirect. 246:. No redirect link need remain. -- 24: 392:an excellent addendum for the 177:, a valid article (and so are 1: 44:The result of the debate was 132:Derivative (generalizations) 590: 556:01:48, 13 June 2006 (UTC) 538:23:49, 11 June 2006 (UTC) 179:examples of vector spaces 167:examples of vector spaces 79:08:50, 14 June 2006 (UTC) 566:Please do not modify it. 519:13:05, 6 June 2006 (UTC) 507:11:31, 6 June 2006 (UTC) 472:22:53, 5 June 2006 (UTC) 429:12:01, 5 June 2006 (UTC) 417:19:23, 3 June 2006 (UTC) 385:02:49, 29 May 2006 (UTC) 369:02:01, 29 May 2006 (UTC) 357:06:14, 28 May 2006 (UTC) 345:14:05, 27 May 2006 (UTC) 323:23:06, 30 May 2006 (UTC) 309:13:40, 27 May 2006 (UTC) 286:12:02, 27 May 2006 (UTC) 255:03:55, 27 May 2006 (UTC) 231:04:12, 27 May 2006 (UTC) 198:03:35, 27 May 2006 (UTC) 153:02:59, 27 May 2006 (UTC) 139:02:58, 27 May 2006 (UTC) 120:02:41, 27 May 2006 (UTC) 32:Please do not modify it. 549:Category:Article proofs 376:(or perhaps merge with 264:to Wikibooks, or just 224:Derivative (examples) 159:derivative (examples) 85:Derivative (examples) 378:Table of derivatives 302:table of derivatives 220:Table of derivatives 175:table of derivatives 501:spoil the broth. -- 171:derivative (how-to) 100:Instruction manuals 332:Merge 1 or 2 into 163:examples of groups 474: 413: 252: 77: 581: 568: 469: 464: 459: 454: 446: 442: 412: 409: 405: 402: 272:, but Wikibooks 251: 75: 74: 73: 67: 66: 60: 59: 58: 34: 589: 588: 584: 583: 582: 580: 579: 578: 577: 571:deletion review 564: 530:Oleg Alexandrov 467: 462: 457: 452: 440: 414: 410: 403: 398: 382:Septentrionalis 88: 71: 70: 69: 62: 56: 55: 54: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 587: 585: 576: 575: 559: 558: 541: 540: 522: 521: 509: 499:encyclopedants 491: 490: 476: 475: 445: 434: 432: 431: 419: 408: 387: 371: 359: 347: 328: 327: 326: 325: 312: 311: 289: 288: 258: 257: 236: 235: 234: 233: 218:or something. 201: 200: 155: 142: 141: 123: 122: 112: 111: 104: 103: 87: 82: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 586: 574: 572: 567: 561: 560: 557: 554: 550: 546: 543: 542: 539: 535: 531: 527: 524: 523: 520: 517: 513: 510: 508: 504: 500: 496: 493: 492: 489: 485: 481: 478: 477: 473: 470: 465: 460: 455: 450: 444: 443: 437: 436: 435: 430: 427: 423: 420: 418: 415: 406: 401: 395: 391: 388: 386: 383: 379: 375: 372: 370: 367: 363: 360: 358: 355: 351: 348: 346: 343: 342: 337: 335: 330: 329: 324: 321: 316: 315: 314: 313: 310: 307: 303: 298: 294: 291: 290: 287: 283: 279: 275: 271: 267: 263: 260: 259: 256: 253: 249: 245: 241: 238: 237: 232: 229: 228:Keenan Pepper 225: 222:should stay; 221: 217: 213: 209: 205: 204: 203: 202: 199: 196: 192: 188: 184: 180: 176: 172: 168: 164: 160: 156: 154: 151: 150:Keenan Pepper 147: 144: 143: 140: 137: 133: 128: 125: 124: 121: 118: 114: 113: 110: 106: 105: 101: 97: 93: 90: 89: 86: 83: 81: 80: 76: 65: 61: 51: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 565: 562: 544: 525: 511: 494: 479: 439: 438: 433: 421: 399: 389: 373: 361: 352:per Deville 349: 339: 331: 296: 292: 273: 265: 261: 239: 226:should go. — 215: 211: 207: 186: 182: 145: 126: 117:Jersey Devil 107: 99: 91: 63: 46:no consensus 45: 43: 31: 28: 424:- per nom. 390:Strong keep 336:and delete. 183:transwikied 516:AnonEMouse 484:Family Guy 394:Derivation 366:Masterpjz9 334:derivative 306:Ryan Reich 244:Derivative 240:Prune back 216:Foo in bar 212:Bar of foo 193:article. - 191:derivative 136:Kicking222 50:Derivative 350:Transwiki 262:Transwiki 208:Foo (bar) 354:Crazynas 297:de facto 109:recipes. 545:Comment 449:King of 278:Deville 248:Lambiam 422:Delete 293:Delete 270:WP:NOT 266:delete 146:Delete 96:WP:NOT 92:Delete 553:linas 426:Zaxem 404:eptor 362:Merge 320:Lunch 276:. -- 195:lethe 57:Proto 16:< 534:talk 526:Keep 512:Keep 495:Keep 480:Keep 411:talk 374:Keep 341:Ruud 282:Talk 165:and 127:Keep 94:per 72:type 503:Dan 488:GWO 214:or 187:one 536:) 505:| 284:) 274:is 64:|| 532:( 468:♠ 463:♣ 458:♦ 453:♥ 400:H 338:— 280:(

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
Derivative
Proto
type
08:50, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Derivative (examples)
WP:NOT
Jersey Devil
02:41, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Derivative (generalizations)
Kicking222
02:58, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Keenan Pepper
02:59, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
derivative (examples)
examples of groups
examples of vector spaces
derivative (how-to)
table of derivatives
examples of vector spaces
derivative
lethe
03:35, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Table of derivatives
Derivative (examples)
Keenan Pepper
04:12, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Derivative
Lambiam

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