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477:, the article cannot be deleted. Also the last AfD was just a month ago and did not give enough time for other editorial actions to take place. And finally, a topic does not have to be covered by CNN, NBC, or other mainstream media sources in order to be presumed notable. The requirement is significant coverage by reliable, third-party sources, which is a much broader standard than "mainstream" sources. In fact, nominations citing just lack of coverage by mainstream media instead of all reliable sources are dubious nominations. — 347:- While I don't wanna delete the article yet, there is something terrily worng with it. The subject. An article shouldn't be about multiple characters that simply share a name. Yet, Dirgegun and Insecticon Dirge are also covered here. The article should just be about the blue conehead and his various incarnations, the other guys are unrelated and unimportant. 298:. This discussion was started only a month after the first discussion, and the consensus of the first discussion was clearly "keep". The nominator insists on using the same argument ("No reliable coverage on CNN, NBC, etc.") for every AfD discussion he starts, as if coverage on American news TV was essential to notability of fictional characters. 239:") as justification for AFD nominations or for deletion !votes in AFDs begun by others on several articles over the past few days. Without regard to the content of this article or its suitability for Knowledge, this rationale provides a significant misrepresentation of the expectations of our notability guidelines. 588:
Dubious nomination with incredibly weak rationale. And, quite frankly, renominating only a month after a previous AFD ended with a "keep" result shows an incredible lack of respect for recent consensus. Possibly renominate later on, but have someone who actually understands the notability guidelines
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Dirgegun and the Insecticon aren't the same character. An article should not simply be about "separate, pretty much unrelated, characters who share a name". The conehead guy might be notable. The others can be mentioned in disambiguation links, at most. I pointed out this kinda issue already at
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There are now five votes to speedy close this AfD discussion because it's too soon after the first one. I would speedy close it myself but I have an interest in the discussion, so I'd prefer avoiding closing it myself.
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per snow keep of last AFD only one month ago. Revisit is a few months perhaps... but to do so within only a few weeks is a slap in the face of recent keep consensus.
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due to grossly inaccurate nomination rationale. I request the nominator not use AFD until he has at least some grasp of what establishes notability.
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that's a very skewed view of the world, does something have to appear on US network television to have an article?
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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due to recent vote to keep. Can we at least wait until the new year before we think about renominating this? --
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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I strongly object to the removal of the other incarnations. It is relevant information and should stay. --
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Nominator has used this comment (or others in the form "No reliable coverage on <network1: -->
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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agreement. The article has multiple third party sources. Nothing wrong with it.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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page is just plain unhelpful. Unlike Ransack, this character
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Articles for deletion/Dirge (Transformers) (3rd nomination)
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Articles for deletion/Dirge (Transformers) (2nd nomination)
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list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions
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