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197:). It saddens me that this ridiculousness has reached the level that it requires official debunking, but them's the facts. The article could use a good cleansing of poor content, crappy promotional sources affiliated with the subject, and perhaps even some agenda-driven editors, but the book is notable. 231:
I don't endorse this book, but it's out there and it had enough impact that breast cancer and other health organizations include responses to it. We have included these responses to bring needed balance. And removing this from Knowledge won't help people who are researching this topic. Fringe? yes.
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Not sufficient published sources for this utterly non-notable book. The ACS describes the theory as an intenet rumor. TYhey are essentially obliged to dubunk everything they see, but we ignore the non-notable. Possibly there might be an article on the hypothesis, but it would be better to mention it
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I'd be really happy if a few of these 'keep' editors here would put this article on their watchlist. It's not a high-traffic page, but it is POV bait, and it feels like the same people are always reverting the same kinds of edits. (The IP address from the authors' home town, for example, has a
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we can see a large number of works discussing the topic, so this is actually a widely documented theory. In particular we have ""well-known, reliable, and independent sources which discuss the theory", the ACS and Scientific America. Apparently 6.2% of US adults believe the theory, according to
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Wow that is some serious stupid. Mastcell more or less summarizes things well. DGG is not completely correct here because some of the sources are not in the business of debunking every little fringe idea. In particular, Scientific American does not generally do this. We have multiple reliable
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to be notable enough for inclusion. I'll also note the article is currently unbalanced and if sledged for balance, only a stub would remain. A stub with the above fringe and notability problems withstanding. Please consider deletion based on the above rationale. Thank you for your time,
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the book's content, as stated, is irrelevant. We measure notability based on the coverage from reliable third parties, which this appears to have plenty of.
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concerns can be dealt with by focusing on media reaction to the book; "POV bait" concerns can be addressed with due diligence (with the occasional
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particular way they want to spin the husband's dropping out, or being forced out, of all those grad school programs.)
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so the subject matter of the book, or its point of view, mean nothing with regards to its viability as an article.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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eep, but do NOT rename. It is a book about a controversial topic, and criticism is therefore to be expected.
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should the editing heat rise). IP's points above are well-taken as there are other books with the title
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Well, that may not happen, but in the meantime, please consider contributing. Regards.
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on their web site. The theories which are presented in the book are definitely
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Prevalence and sociodemographic correlates of beliefs regarding cancer risks
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in an article. As is, it's a drastic violation of fringe and undueweight.
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Would it help to turn it into an article about the theory, not the book?
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Criticism of "Dressed to Kill: The Link Between Breast Cancer and Bras"
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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An entire article devoted to what appears to be criticism of an
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I don't think that it would make the least bit of difference.
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Dressed to Kill: The Link Between Breast Cancer and Bras
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
John254
01:59, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
Dressed to Kill (book)
Dressed to Kill (book)
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
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logs
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View log
theory not widely documented or accepted
objective coverage
NonvocalScream
talk
04:34, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
American Cancer Society
responded to this book's claims
WP:FRINGEy
plenty of articles on fringe-science topics
Zetawoof
ζ
04:59, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
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