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and the subject itself isn't notable. Every single source cited is a primary source documenting a particular English-language version to which many Wikipedians shamefully contributed. These versions are then followed by OR commentary about what makes each different. There is not a single secondary
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indicates the topic of the Creed itself is widely discussed, and I have to think the various versions of the Creed used by various proponents and opponents, as well as by churches with different phrasing of the creed, probably has sufficient attention to merit a separate article. No objection to
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repository? Seriously? The Nicene creed is one of the more important attestations of faith of any religion, and, of course, was not originally written in English, so how it has been translated over the years is a proper topic for an encyclopedia article. I am simply not seeing the copyright
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Lousy page, fails, for example, to cover the Reformation era discussions, mostly about whether ot keep it, but also about the wording, which are probably the most aspect of any encyclopedic discussion of translating this creed. If any of the modern translations excited controversy (as most
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issues--many of these are too old to be covered by copyright, and those that are not are simply derivative works themselves. Even if public religious affirmations of faith are copyrightable as a class, I remain unconvinced that what we currently have in the article is itself problematic.
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text repository that would be better off on Wikisource were it not for the copyright issues. After removing any copyright problems, any sourced critical commentary about English translations of the Nicene Creed can be incorporated into the Nicene Creed article.
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Editors are working to expand the article in good faith, and most of what has been added seems to be referenced. There's nothing "shameful" about it and statements like that create needless
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liturgical wording does) that also belongs in the article. Let us pray that it will grow and improve. Greatly.
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The article, which has many questionable copyright issues involved with English translations, is primarily a
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source discussing the topic or providing any commentary on the differences. Not only should this be deleted
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Several editors added other versions of the creed from various churches to this article, which contradicts
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I don't understand: you're saying one particular liturgical translation was done by Wikipedians?
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Thanks for pointing out the misuse of the word "lyrics". I must have been thinking about the
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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the article badly needs work, and might be revised to include non-English versions, but
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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copyvio removal I was doing before this nomination.
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