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WP:What Knowledge (XXG) is not and WP:Deletion policy, apply given the promotionalism has not changed a year later and, worse, one of the last AfD voters was an uncovered paid user therefore casting questions all around. In a vote last comment, someone said WP:V was satisfied but a ToU violation like
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as the already notable Foodpanda, a similar German company that bought EatOye in 2015. I personally think there's plenty of material that could be included in a standalone EatOye article if the current one was rewritten from a purely neutral point of view. But I don't think it'll matter when EatOye
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as the genuine concerns here are founded in genuine policies: WP:What Knowledge (XXG) is not, WP:Not newspaper, WP:Not promotion, WP:Not webhost, WP:Not catalog and WP:Not advocacy; we honestly shouldn't need a clearer basis for such a deletion beyond these. That we should make an exception for one
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The relevant concerns here are WP:What Knowledge (XXG) is not which a policy with a higher degree of importance over WP:Notability (with the latter clearly stating: "Must not be excluded under and outside the scope of Knowledge (XXG) policy".
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it should be deleted. Any editor may create it in the future if written in conformity with WP policies and guidelines, because even if trimmed of merged now the original non neutral content can easily get its way back through subtle means.
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this immediately outweighs that; worse when WP:GNG is not an automatic factor, but instead a "possibility of an article", not guarantee. The offered sources before were no better:
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business as opposed to others is unreasonable and unconvincing to our goals here, and certainly this wouldn't be such a place for changing such standard policies.
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On the other hand, there is no agreement that there is really anything worth merging. In the end, the only thing that enjoys some consensus is to redirect to
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I have changed my comment above to say I am fine with either a keep as a standalone article or a merge as suggested below by Gargleafg.
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banner on it is the only way to ensure that the main consensus - that this should not be a stand-alone article - is followed.
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11, 12 and 13 are all local interest stories, showing no independent coverage outside their business
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Coming back through "subtle means" can happen in both cases unless the title is salted. --
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Should have been requested for speedy deletion.(G11. Unambiguous advertising or promotion)
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1-3, 7, 8, 9 (the latter 3 especially sharing the same format style) a labeled announcement
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explicitly force us to delete material but mention deletion as a possible outcome (cf.
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None of the references meet the criteria for establishing notability, fails GNG and
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5 is a general business award for one specification, therefore not significant
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Since it was clearly written in violation of Knowledge (XXG) core policy of
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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10 is a business column for several companies, not only this one
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I think the view of the sources given above is exactly right.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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per the significant coverage in reliable sources found by
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The article is neutrally written so it does not violate
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WP:WHATISTOBEDONE
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WP:ATD-R
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EatOye
Articles for deletion/EatOye
Articles for deletion/EatOye (2nd nomination)
EatOye
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