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From this article, you find out that Japan recognized Egypt's independence (and so did every other country), the fact that they make trade with each other (not that notable of a fact, more trivial than anything). And various government officials making visits to the countries. In case someone doesn't
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Yes, percentages and arithmetic that show the comparitive worth of things are cool. I mean, someone who is poorly informed might think "$ 1 billion DOLLARS!" means something in international trade. But the cool thing about fancy dancy percentage calculations is they give us a sense of scale and
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This is yet another stub in a long line of stugs (all unsourced) being created about non-notable international "relationships." There are no sources that discuss the Egypt-Japan relationship in depth, and anything of note that happens between the two countries (i can find nothing but cordial
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Goodness vote keep. But please, it's painful to see someone refer to $ 1 billion dollar as "extensive" for a bilateral trade relationship. It's peanuts (there may or may not be good reasons for this notability -- but the bilateral trade is empirically non-notable at that
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