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273:(as creator of DAB page). These are two well defined and clearly distinct meanings of this term, both of which are notable in different spheres of natural science and discussed in different wikipedia articles. Without this DAB page, it's confusing for readers searching for information on one of them when they are redirected to an article that mentions the other. There used to be a stub article on Electrical elastance that was then moved to Elastance, and then merged into Capacitance. Much of the content was lost in the merger. I would not be opposed to recreating that stub at 443:("Electrical and Electronics Reference Manual for the Electrical and Computer PE Exam" Page 16-11) but I'm not well-versed in this field so I can't be sure if that's the best citation. I'd be fine with restoring the stub as long as there's a link at the top that says "if you were looking for the inverse of compliance in physiology see 440: 441:
https://books.google.com/books?id=rfHWHeU0jfsC&pg=SA16-PA11&lpg=SA16-PA11&dq=elastance+electronics&source=bl&ots=OPlqwhMvkB&sig=k8vO2u1EDxQ-IZLDOylfDucooIk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjNtaK1hfDQAhXHxlQKHXGMCT8Q6AEIOjAG#v=onepage&q=elastance%20electronics&f=false
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reasonably well. The physiology meaning is merely an application of the term in mechanics. The electrical meaning comes through analogy with mechanical systems, hence the name. Many other quantities in mechanics and electrics share the same name because they share the same
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and possibly creating a new stub about the meaning in physiology, if that would fix the issue raised by the OP. However, this DAB is clearly necessary to avoid reader confusion, and quickly direct users to the information they are looking for.
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who coined terms for many of the properties occuring in electromagnetic analysis (and was much criticised for it—but they nearly all stuck so he gets the last laugh). And, aha, having made that guess, I immediately find
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has a table showing the analogy between mechanical and electrical elastance (not very clearly it has to be said). It would be nice to know who invented the term. My guess would be
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The old stub was unreferenced. Does anyone with an electronics background have a source we can include for it if we're going to re-create it? A cursory Google Search reveals this
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and roll back per Spinningspark. This was a promising stub until another editor came along and redirected it to
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and there may be more information in the references there. Although that article does not currently mention
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Yes, the so called merge was no more than adding a dicdef. All the real encyclopaedic information was lost.
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and explains the connection with mechanical compliance. The bigger picture for this relationship is in
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gives some idea why the concept is useful in network analysis through an example of Cauer using it.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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to this being an article. The two meanings are not entirely unconnected and the article
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so that a sensible bluelink can go there from the dab page, rather than just to
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verifies most of the information in the old article. It mentions the unit
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sometimes mechanics borrowing from electrical science, as in the case of
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
543:- This can be rolled back to a version that is acceptable. -- 339:
with the edit summary "balderdash". I have just restored it.
477:, it could do, and both articles should be cross-linked. 363: 336: 117: 113: 109: 208: 181: 295:: but add a definition of the electronics version to 227:
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