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restaurateurs, managers, etc) or sports pages (interest pieces on high school, former high school, skiers/snowboarders, etc.) relevant to the area. 99% of the people being discussed in those articles would be considered routine in any other circumstance, yet you have repeatedly claimed that once a high school player has graduated, any coverage, whether or not they were only being covered again because they played high school there, is now deemed non-routine. That is what I have a problem with as I see it as no different than a local chef getting an interest piece. We clearly have different opinions on the matter, and it is what it is.
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about local news; however, smaller cities don't have much relevant on-going local news, so they fill it with local interest articles (as in run-of-the-mill or routine), which includes people. Every small paper does this and the sports section is no different (especially if it was in June when there are no other local sports to actually cover). That is why I like to see far more wide range of coverage in at least one other non-stats source.
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fluff piece on a former local high school player doing well in a NAIA college. We've discussed this before, but I still firmly believe any coverage by a local paper, especially smaller ones, is questionable in its independence as a source. Local papers need to sell papers, and locals will buy papers
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The blurb at NewsLibrary.com suggests that the article was significant coverage, but it's hard to say without reviewing the full article. NHSPHSATH was intended to set a higher bar for high school athletes; if the article deals only with Liles' high school period, NHSPHSATH might apply but, again,
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You have grossly misstated my position. I have never, let alone "repeatedly", claimed that "once a high school player has graduated, any coverage ... is now deemed non-routine." What I said in this case is simply that I would need to see the actual article in question to evaluate it. You, on the
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Certainly in-depth as an interview; however, in the About Us it does they are/were a blog based in the UK (hence the description of college football levels before the interview in the notes). It should also be clarified that the site linked did not actually perform the interview, it was done by
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to fill their paper with articles to sell it, hence fluff it up, when nothing else is happening. I have lived in towns between 1,000 and 10,000 pop. my entire life and they literally have 1-5 articles every week in their papers about locals, whether it is the business pages (shop owners,
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with no significant coverage or reliable independent sources. One of them is lieterally a list created on Reddit compiling other social media posts for a draft of a failed league (and is essentially a reprint of the since deleted draft primary source page). Another is a source from the
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The second clause excludes the majority of local coverage in both news sources and sports specific publications. It especially excludes using game play summaries, statistical results, or routine interviews as sources to establish
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or any other measure that I can find. Subject might achieve notability in the future... perhaps in the near future, so no prejudice toward re-creation of the article. I would change my position if other sources are found and
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bar. I agree with Paulmcdonald that there's just not enough coverage revealed to this point to pass that bar. Also, most of the coverage that has been found is from sources
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covering high school football. I can't find any reports that says he ever played a game or a try-out with any of the NFL teams, or even the arena teams, listed.
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based on the sources provided in the article and those found in the discussion above, it seems that the subject does not pass
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is satisfied here. But your dismissing a source as "a run-of-the-mill fluff piece" without even seeing it is questionable.
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piece is significant coverage, but I'm not familiar with UKEndzone and have doubts as to whether it's a reliable source.
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of June 22, 2011. I don't have a subscription, so I can't review it. I'll hold off on voting to see if others (
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other hand, claim to have the remarkable ability to evaluate articles without even reading them.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Would not most articles about his school play in Coolidge not be de-barred by clause 2 in
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another blogger on another defunct blog and re-printed with permission/partnership.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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My preliminary searches aren't turning up enough to pass
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