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So first off you say that the article isn't notable... and then you claim "sporting notability", which AFAIK there is no such thing on
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But you're not saying anything about it being reliable; you're talking about notability. Again, a one-sentence mention does not make for a proper source for any article. Nor does it say anything about his notability. I can have someone write a short mention of me and how I frequently shop this or
437:- I don't even know what GiantSnowman is trying to say; you keep contradicting yourself and making absolutely no sense at all. Anyways, delete as I can't find any proof of notability whatsoever. Blogspam and one-time mentions on some obscure website doesn't count for anything.
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Well I am just trying to find some consistancy with you guys - which was always, and seems still is still, lacking. You always said that if the article was produced by the players club then it wasnt "third party" and therefore didnt pass as a WP:RS - I'm just saying what you
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It doesn't matter how many times a website is visited to show its reliablity, what a ridiculous thing to claim. The fact you have to face is that the website I have provided shows that this guy has acheived enough for his article to be deemed as notable.
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All the stuff you're saying on notability. While it's not notable, it somehow is in sports...? If it's NN, it's NN; it doesn't matter what category the subject is in.
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Sigh. You need to move on from months-old AfDs that didn't go your way. Face it, the club's own official history is a reliable source that proves this guy is notable!
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No, as it's clearly not. I'm not using this source to try and pass GNG, I'm using it to show sporting acheivements and notability, which I am satisfied it does.
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That's because the act of shopping in a supermarket, which the sentence shows, isn't notable. However, the sentence above shows sporting notability, as does
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