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635:. Interestingly enough it seems like the same people who want this deleted are unfamiliar with Eric (or claim to be). More so, I find it interesting the same (2) people who want it deleted spend a lot of time checking/editing this Knowledge (XXG) (again claim to be unfamiliar with it). This article is more than fine, it has adequate sources from AllMusic, MTV, US Magazine, AOL Music, Yahoo News. Want more do you need? If it need editing for somewhat of a better tone that's something not up to me, but it clearly does not require deletion. 870:, given the claim that he is an R&B singer. There are comments about two singles that he released, and somewhere it says that BMG is his record company, but I can't find any evidence that he's released an album. So we can't meet WP:MUSIC's requirement for multiple albums on a major label, national tours, or awards. Somewhere else it says he was a male model between 2005 and 2007. Are we getting close to notability yet? 208: 1011:
proud of him and how busy he has been. He's got a new record deal, has Brian Michael Cox and Kanye West on his album so far and will be more notable than any of you. Did anyone get the new Gotham magazine? Or Women's Day magazine? Or The Mi2n front page feature? Maybe you should. He's got everything and everyone going on his side now bitches.
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association with other celebrity names and reporting of trivial gossip column filler, which is all this entry amounts to at present (and has done for many years). Going from the links Eric and 'friends' certainly seem to have found plenty of other places on the internet to place their promotional fluff. (
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I'm not Eric but you and your 'friends' have been busted. And you're pathetic. Who spends a week on this? You do. I emailed his Myspace.com/ericxwest but I bet he won't even care. When did you delete the long topic on you webpage to get this deleted? You're sick!! If this gets deleted too bad I don't
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The only thing on his resume was appearing as an extra in Lords Of Dogtown – this constitutes notability? This is nothing more than a puff piece for an apparent habitual liar. The latest one was about his album coming out yet again with supposed production from Kanye West (we would have heard of this
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All those first two links tell you is that West's supposed music career to date amounts to precisely nothing. The AOL one is a verbatim copy of the allmusic one so they hardly count as two sources. I can't even be bothered to check the rest. Plus it seems like the same one or two people who want this
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Lots of wild claims – supposed guest on the Oprah Winfrey show, alleged big hits in conveniently obscure markets, blatantly made-up chart positions, appearing in tabloids around the world (don’t you have to actually be famous to appear in tabloids) – without a shred of independent secondary evidence
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You can't be bothered to check the rest sources but you want this article deleted? Can your vote be taken seriously then? Precisely nothing happened to his career? He recently worked (produced or wrote) on albums for Mario, David Hernandez and Cher, and has been in almost every gossip magazine under
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Pop singer, model, and actor Eric West was born in New York City on May 18, 1982. In the late '90s he had success with singles like "End of the World" and "Can You Help Me?" before transitioning into modeling and acting in the early 2000s. West's LP debut, Half Life, was scheduled for a spring 2005
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OK, the third one is some gossip column rubbish about someone NOT KNOWING WHO ERIC WEST IS. The fifth is a copy of the fourth but in Danish. The last one mostly concerns the completely false rumour made up by someone that he was going to appear in The Curious Case of Benjamin Button. And these are
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before, but here he hit the nail right on the head. Also Delete per Iridescent, Mr Stephen, RossRSmith, Dmn, EdJohnston, and Cameron Scott arguments. The subject of this article, Eric West, is a borderline notable entertainer, but the cites are just trivial mentions without any in depth coverage
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You’ll see the ones who’ve run the page for the last 5 years all do the same type of trivial pop diva article - Janet Jackson, Jody Watley etc. And a quick glance at the history for these contributors reveals that they try and get Eric West’s name in “related” articles that tie in with his page –
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Keep::: I hope I am doing this right but who the hell are all of these people with these with all of these claims. I know Eric personally and I am shocked there are all of the attacks. Do you guys even have any time for anything eelse? If this web page gets deleted his life doesn't stop. I am so
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Non-notable obscure "celebrity"; a fluff piece about a "star" whose single was allegedly briefly on the charts in Bolivia, was reported to have dated some models and singer-actresses, etc., had an album that was talked about but never released, shot a TV pilot, etc. What's the male for "starlet"?
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Eric's 'friends' need to calm down a bit. Like, they say, it's only a Knowledge (XXG) page after all. When his music career takes off then good for him, then he'll be notable enough to have a page. But I don't think that Knowledge (XXG) should be used as a tool for self-promotion by tenuous
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Hey Eric, maybe you should send the story out to the news media! Notable model/actor/singer/humanitarian/gossip column regular Eric West speaks exclusively to makeyourownnews.com about his Knowledge (XXG) entry deletion conspiracy heartbreak! Then put it as a link on the wikipedia page!
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I didn't want to join but it's the only way I can upload a photo. It saddens to read all of this shit. I got an email back from Eric and I just felt I should upload it because he is right. He could have his 40,0000 MySpace friends respond here but what's the
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Could you explain how al 57 sources are unreliable? CBSnews.com, ArtistDirect.com, US magazine.com, AllMusic.com, AOL News.com, Yahoo News.com, MTV.com, Official musician web sites, ASACP and YouTube footage. This is the best thing ever. I'll wait for it.
910:)! IF and when an album gets released THEN maybe there should be a wikipedia page for him. Until then it's just so much free promotional puff. And that Kanye West link you're so proud of is a link to a pay-for-promotion site. 48:. The first discussion was closed as keep, with the note that this article was in need of some heavy cleanup. Disregarding the votes of socks and IPs, there appears to be a clear consensus that said cleanup didn't occur. 1314:
fails WP:MUSIC - I've never in all my time here seen such a well sourced article where the sources add up to.. nothing at all. It's like they are constructed of quantum matter - they are there until you look at them...
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kept are the same one or two people who keep trying to stifle any discussion of it (look how many times the discussion page has been wiped by certain people any time anyone casts any doubt on the point of this entry)
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you are so sad. all of your edits are from the uk the same web site that now made the 300 page topic about getting the eric west wikipedia deleted private because all of you are busted.
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wow. 57 sources, all of them unreliable and trivial to boot. I'd like to say that's a record. But sadly, it isn't. (I think the "socialite" mention in the lede is a nice touch though).
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I'm trying to find someway of keeping this article, but I'm not sure if Mr. West meets standards for inclusion. If the article is kept, I'd suggest a LOT of clean-up and a rewrite.
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This has been here for years but never has established any actual notability for the guy. Look at the photos: Eric West attends this party and this show, etc. So bloody what?
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from multiple independent sources. When he garners some more notability (and I think he will) as evidenced by sufficient RS, come back with an article. Fails
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Well How about once again ... CBSnews.com, ArtistDirect.com, US magazine.com, AllMusic.com, AOL News.com, Yahoo News.com, MTV.com, Official musician web sites,
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I checked the links, and there are less than a handful of broken, most of the article is well-sourced and verifiable and again does not require deletion
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I voted keep. There is a album In the works with universal and downtown records and kanye west is producing it as well. The link is on the main page.
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like Christina Milian. I have no idea who noted superstar Jeannie Ortega is, but at least she actually has an album listed in her allmusic profile.
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I won't explain for you. But i'll happily direct you to where you can learn about our inclusion and sourcing criteria, SPA. Read these:
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to back it up, there is no proof for any of this, especially with the heavy reliance on gossip sites and invalid sources like popdirt.
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http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/Contributors.php?wikilang=en&wikifam=.wikipedia.org&grouped=on&page=Eric+West
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Now I'm going to create my on! Now I can be as fancy as he is. Because of Wiki I can now do everything he does. It's THAT easy.
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http://buzz.yahoo.com/article/1:us_weekly995:b3515614bac6f02caa0f65ccb9d966c2/Help-Brad-Pitts-Co-star-Find-His-Missing-Mother
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I suspect this page is almost entirely autobiographical, and that half the references would not exist if not for this page.
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Since when was CBS news, Us magazine, Yahoo news, MTV and official artists websites like Mario's not reliable? What a joke.
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But the album NEVER GOT A RELEASE. He DIDN'T appear in that (or any) film. So these 'news' stories are of no consequence
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Funnily enough, most of the ones saying “keep” with named IP addresses are from the New York area – home of Eric West.
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If you came here because someone asked you to, or you read a message on another website, please note that this is
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=531055&albumId=3484083
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None are reliable. Allmusic.com and MTV are as reliable as it gets. What's wong with the people on here?
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if Kanye was involved) – which you can quite clearly see was sent to a free submit your own news site -
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the sun. So maybe to you he isn't notable, but for some he is. The guy had an endorsement deal with
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http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2006/04/21/2006-04-21_gatecrasher_milian_myspaces_out_about_an.html
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http://guestofaguest.com/nyc-events/conde-nast-traveler-heats-up-the-night-with-2009-hot-list-party/
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The following users have been blocked as obvious sockpuppets created to influence AFD discussions:
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feel bad for Eric it's just a webpage I feel bad for you. What will you do with your time now
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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even yahoo, mtv, aol news, who does the research to determine something isn't reliable?
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I also think the history of the page and the editors contributions should be noted –
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http://popular.ebay.com/ns/Clothing-Shoes-Accessories-/American-Eagle-Outfitters.html
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However, you are invited to participate and your opinion is welcome. Remember to
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Or the reason he was a presenter on the Urban Music Awards that aired in the US.
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There's supposedly been an album in the works for the last six years or so (see
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Also the reason Elton John picked him to host the Elton John Aids Foundation
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Being known for never having released an album is not reason to be on here.
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Based on there are enough sources to "pass" notability. Clean up is needed.
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I'd like to see where this goes. Great to see his is working with Kanye.
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So this is the reason he is working on the album by David Hernandez?
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release, and he continued working on film projects through 2006.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Mario Official website listing Eric West as producer :
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He wouldn't be anything if it wasn't for this Wiki?
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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
Blueboy
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15:38, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Eric West
Articles for deletion/Eric West
Articles for deletion/Eric West (2nd nomination)
Articles for deletion/Eric West (3rd nomination)
Articles for deletion/Eric West (4th nomination)
Articles for deletion/Eric West (5th nomination)
Eric West
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
delete
View log
Orange Mike
Talk
21:20, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
list of Living people-related deletion discussions
Erwin85Bot
talk
00:01, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

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