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490:. It's too early to tell if this case will engender any sort of lasting change, and unless it does, it's just yet another example of wealth buying privilege. If it DOES cause change, we can always recreate it later. I appreciate people see deleting the page as "covering" for Ethan, but WP should not be used as a scarlet letter. - 614:
I count on wikipedia to provide the facts of this incident. The article does not seem like a judgment. It is very factual and it helps me to quickly understand what's happening in this case. Please keep this page. We can easily judge for ourselves without wikipedia but at least wikipedia is there to
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This should not be deleted, regardless of outcome, because it's an interesting and notable case that spawned a (however short-lived) social controversy. Keeping it costs Knowledge (XXG) nothing while deleting it would make it that much harder to find out information about this. I was researching the
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and that you have userboxes such as "This user is a member of WikiProject US Courts and judges" on your user page makes me believe that you are proposing this article deletion NOT because your care about Knowledge (XXG) and its well-being BUT because you are pursuing some kind of personal agenda,
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The incident is unquestionably notable and deserves mentioning due to widespread media coverage alone. Also, judging by the facts that you do not propose any alternative solution to preserving this information, you have the gall to use phrase such as "no long term significance" while you yourself
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But in recent days, the implications of being rich have set off an emotional, angry debate that has stretched far beyond the North Texas suburbs, after a juvenile court judge sentenced a 16-year-old from a well-off family to 10 years’ probation for killing four people in a drunken-driving crash.
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There is a clear consensus that this article should not be deleted. There is some feeling that the article should be moved, or that it should be merged into another article, but no consensus for either. However, this closure is made without prejudice against raising either or both of those
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This case does sound like it has a social impact. I don't see how Ethan Couch is notable apart from the case, and will refrain from commenting on him personally. Note that I came to the page from Crooked Timber, which linked to the current page. So a redirect is appropriate.
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present the facts. I hate trollish people in wikipedia who dispute and whine and complain about every wiki page/article/entry because they are superior Western intellectual beings. Knowledge (XXG) is more of a resource. It is not an encyclopedia per say.
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The facts of the case are needed to judge the validity of the sentence. People who hear about a teen getting probation for four deaths need to know the details to judge whether justice was served.
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This case isn't going away. Its close to the top of many front pages today. Having an article about both the case and one or more principals involved isn't problematic in my opinion.
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Since the suggested redirect target does not exist, and never has existed, I can only assume that the editors saying "redirect" actually mean "keep and rename".
563:; while I think the case itself will have its own legal and social repercussions and is certainly notable, I do not believe Ethan Couch himself is very notable. 346:
This case is indisputably notable, but I don't think there's any way to find enough biographical information on this guy without raising privacy concerns. The
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The case has recieved nationwide/international publicity and interest and easily meets notability requirements. Probably should be retitled though.
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This is the central figure in what has already become an important legal case, one that has injected a novel legal theory into real life.
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This does have long term consequences because of potential Case Law and could be considered notable and general societal impact.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/14/us/teenagers-sentence-in-fatal-drunken-driving-case-stirs-affluenza-debate.html?_r=1&
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The article is well referenced and passes notability. I found it when I wanted to learn more about Ethan Couch. --
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It is COUCH, not CROUCH. Don't cover up for this quadruple murderer, keep the wiki page alive!
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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most likely related to one of your personal friends/relatives or former co-workers.
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possibilities for further discussion on the article's talk page.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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http://crookedtimber.org/2013/12/16/affluenza-as-liars-paradox/
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is provided as an example to show when this is the case.--
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topic and learned a lot from the Knowledge (XXG) page. -
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there. I don't think this meets the third criteria of
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