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organisms do evolve over time (which is the case for 97% of the scientists but for a significantly smaller percentage of non-scientists, according to a source cited in the article), or someone who actively promotes evolutionary thinking (like
Richard Dawkins). Apart from these three fairly neutral meanings, there is of course the non-neutral use of the term by some creationists.
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and merge any content that may be useful. I'm going by the example of the abortion-related pages on
Knowledge (XXG) - "anti-choice," for example, redirects to "abortion debate" rather than redirecting to "pro-life" or having its own page. Since "evolutionism" is a term used by opponents of teaching
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Christianity (to use one of your examples), it could also have an article on the word "Christian" since the word itself is important enough. Right now it has an article on the word "evolutionism", it doesn't have an article on evoluntionism itself since (as I mentioned in the
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That sounds like a good idea to me. The main fact the article presents, that creationists use the word "evolutionism" to put down people who disagree with them, is certainly notable and should be given on WP. I just think that a dedicated article on the word itself is against "not a dictionary."
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Deletion seems over-the-top to me, but at least, the use of the term "evolutionist" needs reconsideration in this article. An evolutionist may be a scientist who studies evolution (just like a biologist is a scientist who studies biology), or someone who (passively) adheres to the theory that
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