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will show you that 80.13.85.217 is static IP editor who is simply a very keen editor on French educational / aerospace topics. The over 60 articles submitted covers a wide variety of establishments and people, and it was reviewed by a similarly large number of AFC volunteers. We should be encouraging
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and agree there's a lot of good work there. And a quick look at my recent history would tell you that I am far from a newcomer-biter. My self-promotion comment was ill-judged, however. But, in this particular case my considered opinion happens to be that notability has not been demonstrated. But as
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since his achievements as an actual research academic are minimal, and he doesn't hold a highest-level post. He should be judged as VP of a company which may itself be notable but he is not notable simply for being their VP, and has not received significant press coverage.
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