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285:"Considering that Knowledge has articles about hardly any of these Norwegian places, it's unclear to me why we would need a list of what they are called in Finnish." is the sort of view why wikipedia has grown so unevenly. That we do not have articles on most of them does not mean they are not notable or warmly appreciated here. I think this is useful for not only identifying the features but for those which have Finnish names.♦ 201:, this article is essentially a list of translations from Norwegian to Finnish. Whilst it might be suitable for Norwegian and/or Finnish Knowledge, it is unnecessary in English Knowledge. If anyone needs to know the Finnish name for a Norwegian place, then the interwiki links on the place's article would help. 304:, a dialog of Finnish, is one of the official minority languages of Norway. This is not a random pairing of languages: I would not support a similar list of French exonyms for paces in Norway. Nor is it a random list of Norwegian places--it's those that have such names because they are Kven-speaking areas. 315:
speaking countries than Norway, our need is to increase the coverage of Norway to the extent we can. I do not consider it one of our greatest needs, but our priorities are inevitably set by what people here want to do. Whatever part of the appropriate content they want to work on, they should be supported
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However, I would merge the three articles: I would suggest we expand the content here to includes the villages and significant geographic features in the other two other articles, in each case indicating on the main list the relevant region & the geographical coordinates for each item. That we
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We do agree on all, the geographical tabled lists are notable in their own right and productive but the focus on Finnish exonyms rather than on list of landmarks is perhaps less notable. This is different as its a list of Norwegian place names with Finnish names which in my opinion is useful, as was
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The enWP covers the entire world, to the extent we have people to write the articles. Any differences we have in coverage is a function of what people here are prepared to work on. Although it is understandable and expected that we will always have stronger coverage of England and other English
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do not have articles on these places is a weakness, for we do have coverage of every town and village in other countries. As DrB says, this can serve as a checklist for making them. The nom and first commentator make a basic error: this is the English WP, but that means only that it is the WP
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I agree with Dr. B. (I mention that he suggested I look at this AfD, but as you will see, I do not agree with him on the two related articles) This is actually a list of articles or potential articles. WP is a work in progress. I would possibly retitle the article as Kven exonyms, because
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I agree with your logic DGG, that if Kven is an official language of Norway, we should keep this, but do you have any reliable sources backing up that Kven is one of the official languages in Norway? Last time I checked, we had three official written languages
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Also, same reference, "there is no agreement among the Kvens as to whether this language should be referred to as "Kven" or "Finnish". The Norwegian government's policies are not supposed to discriminate against people speaking Kven. Not sure how this helps!
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Knowledge. If the Finnish Knowledge wants this list, they can have it transwikied over to there -- but they would probably want to edit the list to remove a number of the names on this list which are repeated due to insufficient maintenance of the list.
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language". Yes, I know Norwegians (the primary audience for this article, I guess) read English Knowledge too, but they can also use Norwegian Knowledge which seems a more appropriate location to me.
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These are the names some indigenous Norwegians use for places in their own country. I expect our woeful notability guidelines do not cover this matter but the topic seems entirely encyclopedic to me.
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exists and is very appropriate in my view. Is it legitimate to change red links into interwiki links to nowp? I did this with a single link several years ago and got reverted. DGG's merge proposal
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and this article is that Scotland is a largely English-speaking country, whereas Norway isn't. Since this is English Knowledge, essentially the Scottish article is "foreign names for places in
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Kven is (officially) a minority language in Norway and seems to be the only minority language apart from two non-territorial minority languages, Romani and Romanes.
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English is not a language spoken in England only, it is a language you speak all over the world. Given that
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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exonym articles is generally encyclopedic and notable, no indication why this one isn't.
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deleted, I'd support a DRV or a relist after the arguments that has showed in this AfD.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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The corresponding article for Finnish names in Sweden was deleted at
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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language" and this article is "foreign names for places in
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the Swedish one which shouldn't have been deleted. ♦
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