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330:- the term is widely used but there's not a lot to say about it. We don't need to have an entry for every pejorative term for every part of the world, and unless there's something particularly interesting about the origins, use, etc, of the term, it doesn't belong on Knowledge (XXG). I was wondering about a redirect, but no idea what it could redirect to - is there an article on attitudes to/prejudice against middle America? -- 313:. I notice that the closing admin of last week's AfD suggested, "A merge may be reasonable... but further discussion should probably take place on the article talk page." I agree that such a discussion might be worthwhile, especially if it could reach consensus where the last AfD did not. That said, I am not advocating merging and have no target in mind. 227:- well, it is basically a dictionary definition, and somewhat pejorative at that. The article remains without any sources despite the earlier AfD. Google, bless it, turns up a huge number of sources: these are confounded by many factors, not least that F.C. can also mean "area rich in elevated roadways". The term IS used in 373:
With all due respect, the EGP mentions show nothing of the kind. The EGP does not discuss the term "Flyover country" other than to agree with the discussion above that the term is (mildly) pejorative, and just one among several similar terms which it mentions - Great American Desert, Buffalo commons.
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The EGP thus actually shows that "Flyover country" is a non-notable term - one of several not specially good descriptions for a region. That there can be a book on the Great Plains is one thing; that it's "about" FC as such would be quite another, if it were true, which it isn't.
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but just as a chatty label for "rural areas of the US", so arguably there is no "substantial" content. Given that there's nothing more to the term than that, it's hard to know what to say - the phrase is used as so defined; but WP is NOTDICT; ergo, delete.
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to his last close but he did suggest that a merge discussion could take place on the article's talk page and 4 days is not enough time for that to happen. Let's wait a month or 2 before beating this horse again.
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before renomination. I have no opinion on the article itself, but I feel that this renomination (and therefore this discussion) is premature, and that this should therefore be closed quickly. -
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Last AFD closed as no consensus. Only one "keep" in the last AFD addressed the issue of lack of sourcing. This still seems like a dicdef and I can't find anything to expand it.
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article is appropriate. But I think that if it's done that way, it should be done as a new section that lists alternate terms used to describe the Great Plains region. -
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is a slightly disparaging linguistic term, indicating an attitude on the part of the speaker. Also, as a descriptive term,
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would include states like Kentucky, Missouri, Utah, and Nevada, which are not located within the Great Plains region. •••
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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I don't think this nomination has allowed "a reasonable amount of time to pass" as per
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which shows the topic is appropriate for inclusion in an encyclopedia. --
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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list of United States of America-related deletion discussions
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on keep or delete, but strongly oppose redirect. •••
541:are a geographic feature of North America, whereas 201: 52:. Gee hammer, I didn't notice Eluchil404 attaching 43:). No further edits should be made to this page. 669:). No further edits should be made to this page. 461:as a synonym, per the excellent source found by 347:- As a topic, it is covered in detail with this 273:list of Language-related deletion discussions 8: 572:is not valid outcome of an AfD. Do you mean 271:Note: This debate has been included in the 249:Note: This debate has been included in the 388:And I would not be adverse with a merge to 270: 248: 537:are two entirely different things. The 436:as per my changed vote in the last AfD 80: 83:Articles for deletion/Flyover country 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 79: 529:strongly with merge and redirect. 24: 353:Encyclopedia of the Great Plains 508:OK, I can go along with that. 1: 475:21:28, 21 February 2012 (UTC) 242:20:22, 29 February 2012 (UTC) 219:20:10, 29 February 2012 (UTC) 686: 648:20:15, 6 March 2012 (UTC) 619:15:48, 5 March 2012 (UTC) 586:08:17, 5 March 2012 (UTC) 563:00:34, 5 March 2012 (UTC) 518:08:07, 5 March 2012 (UTC) 500:22:37, 1 March 2012 (UTC) 446:21:24, 1 March 2012 (UTC) 429:19:34, 1 March 2012 (UTC) 402:17:21, 1 March 2012 (UTC) 384:17:04, 1 March 2012 (UTC) 365:16:48, 1 March 2012 (UTC) 340:11:52, 1 March 2012 (UTC) 323:07:21, 1 March 2012 (UTC) 306:02:03, 1 March 2012 (UTC) 287:00:48, 1 March 2012 (UTC) 265:00:47, 1 March 2012 (UTC) 67:01:49, 8 March 2012 (UTC) 658:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 78:AfDs for this article: 484:Merge and redirect 455:Merge and redirect 48:The result was 304: 289: 276: 267: 254: 677: 660: 303: 301:Northamerica1000 298: 277: 255: 229:reputable places 216: 214:Ten Pound Hammer 206: 205: 191: 139: 121: 34: 685: 684: 680: 679: 678: 676: 675: 674: 673: 667:deletion review 656: 547:flyover country 543:flyover country 531:Flyover country 299: 212: 148: 112: 98:Flyover country 96: 93: 76: 73:Flyover country 41:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 683: 681: 672: 671: 651: 650: 628: 627: 626: 625: 624: 623: 622: 621: 593: 592: 591: 590: 589: 588: 523: 522: 521: 520: 503: 502: 480: 479: 478: 477: 449: 448: 431: 409: 408: 407: 406: 405: 404: 368: 367: 342: 325: 308: 291: 290: 268: 245: 244: 209: 208: 145: 92: 91: 90: 85: 77: 75: 70: 46: 45: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 682: 670: 668: 664: 659: 653: 652: 649: 645: 641: 637: 633: 630: 629: 620: 616: 612: 608: 607:Life of Riley 604: 601: 600: 599: 598: 597: 596: 595: 594: 587: 583: 579: 575: 571: 568: 567: 566: 565: 564: 560: 556: 552: 551:Life of Riley 548: 544: 540: 536: 532: 528: 525: 524: 519: 515: 511: 510:Chiswick Chap 507: 506: 505: 504: 501: 497: 493: 489: 485: 482: 481: 476: 472: 468: 464: 460: 456: 453: 452: 451: 450: 447: 443: 439: 435: 432: 430: 426: 422: 418: 414: 411: 410: 403: 399: 395: 391: 387: 386: 385: 381: 377: 376:Chiswick Chap 372: 371: 370: 369: 366: 362: 358: 354: 350: 346: 343: 341: 337: 333: 332:Colapeninsula 329: 326: 324: 320: 316: 312: 309: 307: 302: 296: 293: 292: 288: 284: 280: 274: 269: 266: 262: 258: 252: 247: 246: 243: 239: 235: 234:Chiswick Chap 230: 226: 223: 222: 221: 220: 215: 204: 200: 197: 194: 190: 186: 182: 179: 176: 173: 170: 167: 164: 161: 158: 154: 151: 150:Find sources: 146: 143: 137: 133: 129: 125: 120: 116: 111: 107: 103: 99: 95: 94: 89: 86: 84: 81: 74: 71: 69: 68: 64: 60: 55: 51: 44: 42: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 657: 654: 631: 602: 578:Stuartyeates 573: 569: 546: 542: 539:Great Plains 538: 535:Great Plains 534: 530: 526: 488:Great Plains 483: 467:Stuartyeates 459:Great Plains 454: 438:Stuartyeates 433: 412: 390:Great Plains 352: 344: 327: 310: 294: 224: 213: 210: 198: 192: 184: 177: 171: 165: 159: 149: 50:no consensus 49: 47: 31: 28: 640:Niteshift36 636:WP:NOTADICT 175:free images 59:Ron Ritzman 663:talk page 417:WP:DELAFD 279:• Gene93k 257:• Gene93k 37:talk page 665:or in a 570:Disagree 527:Disagree 434:Comment: 142:View log 54:WP:NPASR 39:or in a 603:Neutral 492:Jorgath 421:Jorgath 413:Comment 351:in the 311:Comment 181:WP refs 169:scholar 115:protect 110:history 632:Delete 328:Delete 315:Cnilep 295:Delete 225:Delete 153:Google 119:delete 349:entry 196:JSTOR 157:books 136:views 128:watch 124:links 16:< 644:talk 634:per 582:talk 574:Keep 533:and 514:talk 496:talk 471:talk 463:Whpq 442:talk 425:talk 398:talk 394:Whpq 380:talk 361:talk 357:Whpq 345:Keep 336:talk 319:talk 283:talk 261:talk 238:talk 189:FENS 163:news 132:logs 106:talk 102:edit 63:talk 457:to 217:• 203:TWL 140:– ( 646:) 638:. 617:) 584:) 561:) 516:) 498:) 473:) 465:. 444:) 427:) 400:) 382:) 363:) 338:) 321:) 285:) 275:. 263:) 253:. 240:) 183:) 134:| 130:| 126:| 122:| 117:| 113:| 108:| 104:| 65:) 642:( 615:C 613:– 611:T 609:( 580:( 559:C 557:– 555:T 553:( 512:( 494:( 469:( 440:( 423:( 396:( 378:( 359:( 334:( 317:( 281:( 259:( 236:( 207:) 199:· 193:· 185:· 178:· 172:· 166:· 160:· 155:( 147:( 144:) 138:) 100:( 61:(

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